I think it is up to me what I think is a great post :lol:.

As it's up to me what I think isn't.

The thing that bothered me the most about last night was the first question. It was about the economy and they both said they were warning for the last 2 years that this was coming. So why in the world did they not do something about it. This is the major problem in Washington. They want to say what they have done to warn, but they never do anything until it is to late.

During and after the debate, Democracy Corps conducted a set of dial and focus groups among 45 undecided voters in St. Louis, Missouri. These voters had an unmistakably Republican tilt, voting for President Bush by a 2-to-1 margin in 2004 and self-identifying as 33 percent Republican and 27 percent Democrat.

 

Moreover, by a 38 to 27 percent margin these voters said that Obama won this debate.

 

The clearest takeaway was that there was no single standout moment from the debate that drove voters toward a particular candidate. In both cases, people were moved by the way the candidates conducted themselves. For Obama shifters, they found him energetic, ready to take on the job, and very respectful of McCain while strongly stating his case. This was a stark contrast with McCain, whom they viewed as simply old, tired, and consumed with petty semantic criticisms over strategy vs. tactics or whether we talk to Iran with or without pre-conditions. For the McCain shifters, it was completely the opposite. They felt McCain was eloquent and experienced, unlike the not-ready-for-prime-time Obama who they perceived as ‘immature’ and ‘petulant.’

 

Democracy Corps

 

So the results of a poll conducted by an organization founded by James Carville has the Democratic candidate winning the debate. I never would have guessed.

So the results of a poll conducted by an organization founded by James Carville has the Democratic candidate winning the debate. I never would have guessed.

 

I am assuming then that you have a poll and a link that say otherwise?

 

I can barely believe that I am going to say this, but it's post like these that make me miss AcesFull. He would never say something like this without having a link to back up his innuendo.

Edited September 28, 200817 yr by True blue (and gold)

So the results of a poll conducted by an organization founded by James Carville has the Democratic candidate winning the debate. I never would have guessed.

 

 

CBS/Knowledge Network

 

Obama - 39%

 

McCain - 24%

 

Draw - 37%

 

Insider Advantage

 

Obama - 42%

 

McCain - 41%

 

Undecided - 17%

 

CNN

 

Obama - 51%

 

McCain - 38%

 

 

MSNBC Online Poll (non-scientific)

 

Obama - 52%

 

McCain - 33%

 

 

I don't believe Carville had a hand in these.:walk:

Drudge voters had McCain winning big time.

I read one report today that the ratings were down about 17% compared to the 2004 debates. No surprise being on a Friday night in the fall.

Is the VP debate Tuesday or Thursday? Also, when do McCain/Obama debate again?

Is the VP debate Tuesday or Thursday? Also, when do McCain/Obama debate again?

 

I read something today saying the VP debate is Thursday in STL.

I thought I heard that the next Obama/McCain debate would be on October 7th.

So the results of a poll conducted by an organization founded by James Carville has the Democratic candidate winning the debate. I never would have guessed.

 

I posted what I found. There isn't much in the way of insta-polling as the national trackers that include the debates in their surveys will be out tomorrow. But, please, forgive me if I wanted to post a very general reaction to the debate in a thread about the debate.

I believe Obama won the debate in that he appeared presidential, which is what he needs to do in order to calm people's fears about his inexperience. Let's face it, the only ones who matter in these debates are the independants. It's already been pointed out that they went big for Obama. Will be interesting to see what changes the sides make for the next debates.

CBS/Knowledge Network

 

Obama - 39%

 

McCain - 24%

 

Draw - 37%

 

Insider Advantage

 

Obama - 42%

 

McCain - 41%

 

Undecided - 17%

 

CNN

 

Obama - 51%

 

McCain - 38%

 

 

MSNBC Online Poll (non-scientific)

 

Obama - 52%

 

McCain - 33%

 

 

I don't believe Carville had a hand in these.:walk:

 

Organizations like CBS, CNN, and MSNBC are sooooooo much more objective than Carville these polls must be right.

 

If I wanted to I could list a half dozen polls that show McCain won the debate and most of those orgranizations would have definite lean to the right like most of these have a definite lean to the left. In the end the only conclusion that should be drawn is that polls should not be trusted.

Organizations like CBS, CNN, and MSNBC are sooooooo much more objective than Carville these polls must be right.

 

If I wanted to I could list a half dozen polls that show McCain won the debate and most of those orgranizations would have definite lean to the right like most of these have a definite lean to the left. In the end the only conclusion that should be drawn is that polls should not be trusted.

 

Sure. Let's see the links to these polls.

I feel they both did a good job in that area, just that Obama was talking to the people.

 

Obama wasn't talking to the people, he was trying to remember the lines his campaign writers wrote for him. He sounded so rehearsed and all he could do is stand there and shake his head. That's the lawyer in him coming out. NO substance of his own. McCain speaks from experience, something Obama doesn't have. :fight: