What does everyone think about CLASS A if it looked like this?

 

D-7-1 Raceland, Fairview, Pineville, Jenkins

 

District-1-8- Allen Central, Betsy Layne, Paintsville, Phelps, Pikeville, South Floyd

I would move Paintsville to D7 it would create two five team districts, plus Raceland and Fairview would have to drive past Paintsville to get to Jenkins and Pineville.

What does everyone think about CLASS A if it looked like this?

 

 

 

D-1-1 Ballard Memorial, Crittenden County, Fulton City, Fulton County, Mayfield

 

D-2-1- Beth Haven, Bethlehem, Caverna Campbellsville

 

D-31Beechwood, Bracken, Bishop Brossart, Dayton, Ludlow, Walton-Verna

 

D-4-1 Eminence, Trimble, Gallatin, Kentucky Country Day, Lou. Holy Cross

 

D-5-1 Berea, LCA, Nicholas, Paris, Frankfort

 

D-6-1 Clinton, Lynn Camp, Williamsburg, Harlan, Hazard

 

D-7-1 Raceland, Fairview, Pineville, Jenkins

 

District-1-8- Allen Central, Betsy Layne, Paintsville, Phelps, Pikeville, South Floyd

 

 

 

Do you have any idea how far Pineville is from Ashland/Raceland?

Harlan drives past Pineville to get to all its district games, except Hazard.

They did not have the chance to move up to 2A last year in reality. There was no geographical justification for them to move up to 2A so it was NOT going to happen even if they had requested it, which I'm sure they were aware of.

 

 

You seem to know more about this than the coaches do. I was told they could have moved up but decided to stay in Class A.

My understanding was that FC's move to the Breathitt/Cawood district last year was at FC's request. There was some speculation that they requested the move in hopes of earning a home playoff game; which was worth the additional travel.

 

It may have been worth it if it happened. It think they lost to Breathitt, Cawood and Estill.

If I'm Holmes, Scott, Cooper, or Dixie, I would push for having teams play in their proper classification.

 

5A or 6A. It really doesn't matter. Lets face it Cooper is going everybodies Homecoming for the 1st few years..:ylsuper::lol:

Do you have any idea how far Pineville is from Ashland/Raceland?

Harlan drives past Pineville to get to all its district games, except Hazard.

 

Have been over most of the state. Trying to figure how you would even get from Pineville to Ashland. No offense to anyone, but there is a big difference in the area between I-75 and I-64 (the south east) between how points look plotted on a roadless map and how you actually drive to get there, especially on a school bus.

You seem to know more about this than the coaches do. I was told they could have moved up but decided to stay in Class A.

 

Let's face it. First, LN does know more than most coaches. Secondly, and in all reality, coaches need to focus a whole lot more on dealing with today's kids, today's parents, and what offense and defense they are going to run instead of being preoccupied with retooling a system so that they can have new found success. Have you ever noticed in the last 20 years that no matter what systems are implemented, the successful programs are successful programs. They aren't worried about jumping around so they can be successful. They simply implement a system, get buy-in from all, and work toward a common goal. Then, when they leave, the tradition remains and carries on.

Let's face it. First, LN does know more than most coaches. Secondly, and in all reality, coaches need to focus a whole lot more on dealing with today's kids, today's parents, and what offense and defense they are going to run instead of being preoccupied with retooling a system so that they can have new found success. Have you ever noticed in the last 20 years that no matter what systems are implemented, the successful programs are successful programs. They aren't worried about jumping around so they can be successful. They simply implement a system, get buy-in from all, and work toward a common goal. Then, when they leave, the tradition remains and carries on.

 

Wonderful post! This is exactly what it takes for a football program's success.:dancingpa:dancingpa:

Let's face it. First, LN does know more than most coaches. Secondly, and in all reality, coaches need to focus a whole lot more on dealing with today's kids, today's parents, and what offense and defense they are going to run instead of being preoccupied with retooling a system so that they can have new found success. Have you ever noticed in the last 20 years that no matter what systems are implemented, the successful programs are successful programs. They aren't worried about jumping around so they can be successful. They simply implement a system, get buy-in from all, and work toward a common goal. Then, when they leave, the tradition remains and carries on.

Preach on Brother Kissinger!!! :ylsuper:

Wonderful post! This is exactly what it takes for a football program's success.:dancingpa:dancingpa:

 

Being a successful program is what it takes to be a successful program? Gotcha. No, seriously. Some programs get buy in from all, but don't have the talent, or tradition to sustain it. No bash to successful programs, but it sounds like the "you gotta have money to make money" saying/problem.

Being a successful program is what it takes to be a successful program? Gotcha. No, seriously. Some programs get buy in from all, but don't have the talent, or tradition to sustain it. No bash to successful programs, but it sounds like the "you gotta have money to make money" saying/problem.

 

 

Success breeds success is another way of stating it. In 1966, Trinity hired a modestly successful coach and he promised the underclassmen that if they bought into his system, they can be state champions in two years. Trinity did have a group called the Trini-Dads that helped collect some weights for the program. The Shamrocks did not have extra "money" back then. The Archdiocese of Louisville, who owned Trinity then, ran out of funds while building the gym.

What Trinity did have was a group of youngsters who sacrificed physically and mentally and learned the new system. Pride, Discipline, Loyalty and Achievement which appeared on the 1967 helmets for the first time had to be instilled and accepted by these young men. Yes, there was some potential talent in the group. But it was talent who bought into the what the coach was telling them. This squad won the 1968 state title and it was Jim Kennedy's first state championship team.

From that point forward, the football program has grown in stature and remains very successful. Keep in mind Trinity opened in 1953 and their first varsity season was in 1955. So the Rocks won their first football title in their 14th year of varsity play.

 

Nowadays, new equipment & new uniforms may attract some kids. But it won't sustain a program. Current players and their families are savvy enough to gravitate towards the successful programs. See Dakota Euton and Scott County basketball. Success keeps the parents involved. The Alumni stay close and may be a little more "giving" with donations. Success gets the little ones excited and they come to football camps and learn from the coaches and players, past and present. It is a cycle, but it starts with players buying into a philosophy.

Well it is good to see Berea back in the district play!

In talking to Coach Borchers for Cooper, I thought he said they would be a 6A school for football. Guess not. 5A with CovCath, Dixie, Highlands, Holmes & Scott.

 

Interesting:confused:

 

I'd say by the next realignment following the 2010 season, Cooper WILL be in 6A. Boone County is just growing too fast.

Success breeds success is another way of stating it. In 1966, Trinity hired a modestly successful coach and he promised the underclassmen that if they bought into his system, they can be state champions in two years. Trinity did have a group called the Trini-Dads that helped collect some weights for the program. The Shamrocks did not have extra "money" back then. The Archdiocese of Louisville, who owned Trinity then, ran out of funds while building the gym.

What Trinity did have was a group of youngsters who sacrificed physically and mentally and learned the new system. Pride, Discipline, Loyalty and Achievement which appeared on the 1967 helmets for the first time had to be instilled and accepted by these young men. Yes, there was some potential talent in the group. But it was talent who bought into the what the coach was telling them. This squad won the 1968 state title and it was Jim Kennedy's first state championship team.

From that point forward, the football program has grown in stature and remains very successful. Keep in mind Trinity opened in 1953 and their first varsity season was in 1955. So the Rocks won their first football title in their 14th year of varsity play.

 

Nowadays, new equipment & new uniforms may attract some kids. But it won't sustain a program. Current players and their families are savvy enough to gravitate towards the successful programs. See Dakota Euton and Scott County basketball. Success keeps the parents involved. The Alumni stay close and may be a little more "giving" with donations. Success gets the little ones excited and they come to football camps and learn from the coaches and players, past and present. It is a cycle, but it starts with players buying into a philosophy.

 

Nice post.

 

Our program at Frankfort has a good thing going right now. Maybe we can keep it together long enough to build a sustainable program. For now though, we're looking for our first state championship since the program started... which was at least 1923.

 

For clarification, I didn't intend to relate money to the issue. I was just drawing on another "saying" to strengthen clarity of the comment.