Newport had the Groves kid that was about 6'7" that year also. The other Dixie player could have been Keith Shockey at about 6'5" or so.

 

Newport also had Mitch Mays didn't they? New Cath had Redman that year. Cov Cath had Rhomes along with Turney. All in all, the Connor team from '81 still stands out a bit. They beat SK twice that year I beleive. They had Uhlman, Pitzer at guards and Jim Robinson was their 6'5" center that could jump out of the gym. Again, '81 from top to bottom was the best year the

9th Region has seen.

I'd like to hear more about Scott Draud and some of his performances in High School. Lets face it, he is probably the greatest shooter/scorer to ever come out of the 9th Region.

If we're going on decades:

 

70's- Holmes 78-80

80's- SK 81, Holmes 88

90's- Holmes 90, Highlands 97-99 (?)

00's- NCC 01 (?), St Henry 03, CCH 04, Holmes 07

 

What year was it that CCH had Doug Schloemer's older brother? Wasn't that CCH team pretty good?

NewCath didn't win in 01, but in 00

I was still a young pup, but I do remember C. Hayes putting up a ton of points as well. McInnis used a spin move and fade away from 15 feet whenever he wanted. Another fun game as a youngster with my dad... :banana:

 

That's the thing I remember about McInnis, he owned that jumper from 15 feet.

It was something like that. The guy could flat out get up though. That's a good basketball family tree there. Jeff Stowers, Keith Green, Brendan, Jordan, and Evan (who's a DI diver, or was). That would make summer get togethers very interesting. I see Jeff pretty often, and he's still in great shape. I think that he could still take his boys.

 

 

The Stowers girl was also a pretty good player at SK, and I also believe the late Pete Green is related to Keith.

Newport also had Mitch Mays didn't they? New Cath had Redman that year. Cov Cath had Rhomes along with Turney. All in all, the Connor team from '81 still stands out a bit. They beat SK twice that year I beleive. They had Uhlman, Pitzer at guards and Jim Robinson was their 6'5" center that could jump out of the gym. Again, '81 from top to bottom was the best year the

9th Region has seen.

 

Newport had Mays and Simpson in '81. Cov. Cath. had Turney

and Berling, Romes '80. Conner did beat SK in '81 with

Thomas, Carr, Pitzer-Uhlman '80 and Robinson '79. New Cath

had Cowen twins. Boone had Moeves, Coffman. Walton-

Verona had Anderson, Burns. SK with Mckinley, Dixon, and

Meyers. Holmes had Works and Sebastian. Beechwood had

Brown and Mosier. Lloyd had Hucthinson. St. Henry with

Reuhl. Campbell had Peters. Here are some of the best

Seniors in '81, hopefully I did'nt leave anyone out

Newport also had Mitch Mays didn't they? New Cath had Redman that year. Cov Cath had Rhomes along with Turney. All in all, the Connor team from '81 still stands out a bit. They beat SK twice that year I beleive. They had Uhlman, Pitzer at guards and Jim Robinson was their 6'5" center that could jump out of the gym. Again, '81 from top to bottom was the best year the

9th Region has seen.

 

Newport with Mayes, David Simpson, Kenny Bell, NewCath with Larry Redmon, Moeves at Boone, there was a good group in Ninth Region in 81.

 

But, with all due respect to the mythical 81 Simon Kenton Pioneers (and I know I'm gonna get beat up for this opinion), if you could go back to the day before the state tournament started in 1981, nobody was predicting that that team was going to one day be heralded as the best from northern Kentucky, or that the Ninth Region was particularly strong that year. If the ONLY criterion you use is what team won a state championship, then obviously 81 SK is the best team ever. But if you use ANY OTHER CRITERIA - dominance in northern Kentucky, consistency, even talent as measured by college recruiters, 1981 is a pretty mediocre year, particularly if you take out one week in March. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they brought home a state title to N.Ky., and they get a lot of credit for being the only squad that's ever been able to do that, but I don't think that that automatically defines them as the best team in the history of N.Ky. or that as the best year for the Ninth Region. To prove my point, they obviously didn't dominate northern Kentucky the way a lot of other teams have, and, prior to the state tournament there was no significant Div 1 attention to anyone, even McKinley (see Ryan Ernst's column from last week). They had a great run in the state tournament, and beat a very good Moore team with an All-American, but that one week shouldn't really change who that team was or what the quality of the play by Simon Kenton, or in the Ninth Region as a whole, was for that year. Remember, as juniors the SK team was blown out by Dicky Beal's and Holmes - I think if we were being honest, for anyone that saw any of those games would not have come away thinking "those guys are good - they're just a year away from winning the state". It's impossible to fully compare teams from different years, but my bet would be that anyone that played against the 80 Holmes team and 81 Simon Kenton team would have chosen to play Simon Kenton.

 

Overall, if you're gonna take the Ninth Region from top to bottom, I think you gotta go with a year like 2003, when you had three Div 1's, two of whom were big time Div 1, and another outstanding team that won the region. I could be wrong about this, but I think prior to the 81 state tournament the only D1 interest in anybody was Turney at CovCath, and that was Marshall. Compare that to Brock (EKU), Neltner (LSU) and Doellman (Xavier), and all three failed to win the region. My point is just because Simon Kenton won the state in 81 doesn't, in my opinion, make them the best team or 81 the best year ever from N.Ky. - a blown call in 78 and a last second bomb in 67 do not make the difference between the greatest team ever and all the rest. As a northern Kentuckian, I appreciate the magnitude of the 81 state championship, but it shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of other great teams and players that, on every other level and by any other measure other than winning the final game, were superior.

 

That's just my opinion, so bring it on everybody that thinks its sour grapes. For the record, it isn't - I give props to 81 SK for doing a feat that no other team has been able to pull off. I just don't think looking through the prism of the state championship should change everything else. Just because Simon Kenton got hot and won the state does not, in my opinion, elevate an otherwise pretty mediocre year in Ninth Region basketball from top to bottom.

Newport also had Mitch Mays didn't they? New Cath had Redman that year. Cov Cath had Rhomes along with Turney. All in all, the Connor team from '81 still stands out a bit. They beat SK twice that year I beleive. They had Uhlman, Pitzer at guards and Jim Robinson was their 6'5" center that could jump out of the gym. Again, '81 from top to bottom was the best year the

9th Region has seen.

 

Newport with Mayes, David Simpson, Kenny Bell, NewCath with Larry Redmon, Moeves at Boone, there was a good group in Ninth Region in 81.

 

But, with all due respect to the mythical 81 Simon Kenton Pioneers (and I know I'm gonna get beat up for this opinion), if you could go back to the day before the state tournament started in 1981, nobody was predicting that that team was going to one day be heralded as the best from northern Kentucky, or that the Ninth Region was particularly strong that year. If the ONLY criterion you use is what team won a state championship, then obviously 81 SK is the best team ever. But if you use ANY OTHER CRITERIA - dominance in northern Kentucky, consistency, even talent as measured by college recruiters, 1981 is a pretty mediocre year, particularly if you take out one week in March. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they brought home a state title to N.Ky., and they get a lot of credit for being the only squad that's ever been able to do that, but I don't think that that automatically defines them as the best team in the history of N.Ky. or that as the best year for the Ninth Region. To prove my point, they obviously didn't dominate northern Kentucky the way a lot of other teams have, and, prior to the state tournament there was no significant Div 1 attention to anyone, even McKinley (see Ryan Ernst's column from last week). They had a great run in the state tournament, and beat a very good Moore team with an All-American, but that one week shouldn't really change who that team was or what the quality of the play by Simon Kenton, or in the Ninth Region as a whole, was for that year. Remember, as juniors the SK team was blown out by Dicky Beal's and Holmes - I think if we were being honest, for anyone that saw any of those games would not have come away thinking "those guys are good - they're just a year away from winning the state". It's impossible to fully compare teams from different years, but my bet would be that anyone that played against the 80 Holmes team and 81 Simon Kenton team would have chosen to play Simon Kenton.

 

Overall, if you're gonna take the Ninth Region from top to bottom, I think you gotta go with a year like 2003, when you had three Div 1's, two of whom were big time Div 1, and another outstanding team that won the region. I could be wrong about this, but I think prior to the 81 state tournament the only D1 interest in anybody was Turney at CovCath, and that was Marshall. Compare that to Brock (EKU), Neltner (LSU) and Doellman (Xavier), and all three failed to win the region. My point is just because Simon Kenton won the state in 81 doesn't, in my opinion, make them the best team or 81 the best year ever from N.Ky. - a blown call in 78 and a last second bomb in 67 do not make the difference between the greatest team ever and all the rest. As a northern Kentuckian, I appreciate the magnitude of the 81 state championship, but it shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of other great teams and players that, on every other level and by any other measure other than winning the final game, were superior.

 

That's just my opinion, so bring it on everybody that thinks its sour grapes. For the record, it isn't - I give props to 81 SK for doing a feat that no other team has been able to pull off. I just don't think looking through the prism of the state championship should change everything else. Just because Simon Kenton got hot and won the state does not, in my opinion, elevate an otherwise pretty mediocre year in Ninth Region basketball from top to bottom.

Newport with Mayes, David Simpson, Kenny Bell, NewCath with Larry Redmon, Moeves at Boone, there was a good group in Ninth Region in 81.

 

But, with all due respect to the mythical 81 Simon Kenton Pioneers (and I know I'm gonna get beat up for this opinion), if you could go back to the day before the state tournament started in 1981, nobody was predicting that that team was going to one day be heralded as the best from northern Kentucky, or that the Ninth Region was particularly strong that year. If the ONLY criterion you use is what team won a state championship, then obviously 81 SK is the best team ever. But if you use ANY OTHER CRITERIA - dominance in northern Kentucky, consistency, even talent as measured by college recruiters, 1981 is a pretty mediocre year, particularly if you take out one week in March. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they brought home a state title to N.Ky., and they get a lot of credit for being the only squad that's ever been able to do that, but I don't think that that automatically defines them as the best team in the history of N.Ky. or that as the best year for the Ninth Region. To prove my point, they obviously didn't dominate northern Kentucky the way a lot of other teams have, and, prior to the state tournament there was no significant Div 1 attention to anyone, even McKinley (see Ryan Ernst's column from last week). They had a great run in the state tournament, and beat a very good Moore team with an All-American, but that one week shouldn't really change who that team was or what the quality of the play by Simon Kenton, or in the Ninth Region as a whole, was for that year. Remember, as juniors the SK team was blown out by Dicky Beal's and Holmes - I think if we were being honest, for anyone that saw any of those games would not have come away thinking "those guys are good - they're just a year away from winning the state". It's impossible to fully compare teams from different years, but my bet would be that anyone that played against the 80 Holmes team and 81 Simon Kenton team would have chosen to play Simon Kenton.

 

Overall, if you're gonna take the Ninth Region from top to bottom, I think you gotta go with a year like 2003, when you had three Div 1's, two of whom were big time Div 1, and another outstanding team that won the region. I could be wrong about this, but I think prior to the 81 state tournament the only D1 interest in anybody was Turney at CovCath, and that was Marshall. Compare that to Brock (EKU), Neltner (LSU) and Doellman (Xavier), and all three failed to win the region. My point is just because Simon Kenton won the state in 81 doesn't, in my opinion, make them the best team or 81 the best year ever from N.Ky. - a blown call in 78 and a last second bomb in 67 do not make the difference between the greatest team ever and all the rest. As a northern Kentuckian, I appreciate the magnitude of the 81 state championship, but it shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of other great teams and players that, on every other level and by any other measure other than winning the final game, were superior.

 

That's just my opinion, so bring it on everybody that thinks its sour grapes. For the record, it isn't - I give props to 81 SK for doing a feat that no other team has been able to pull off. I just don't think looking through the prism of the state championship should change everything else. Just because Simon Kenton got hot and won the state does not, in my opinion, elevate an otherwise pretty mediocre year in Ninth Region basketball from top to bottom.

 

Interesting read. I too recall feeling back in 81 that the 9th Region was in a down year, and after Beal was gone, thought that any strong chances for any impact at the state tournament were years away. I remember being wooed by McKinley's shooting and that the Pioneers had a tall team, but I would have never guessed that year headed to Rupp, that they were going to go all the way. That made it even more exciting for me considering when in earlier years I thought for certain that Holmes would be the team to do it. I had pretty much given up hope when the 81 season had rolled around. It really is a nice cinderella story, but in hindsight I also lean towards thinking that we really didn't know what we had and that they actually were a pretty darn good team that worked hard to improve, played with a ton of spirit, and peaked at the right time with some really decent players. Can't say if they were the best team ever, but they ended up amounting to a whole lot and created one of the fondest memories that the 9th Region has ever experienced. But it sure did sneak up on us. Who would've thunk it. :thumb:

 

Go Pioneers!!! :thumb:

Newport with Mayes, David Simpson, Kenny Bell, NewCath with Larry Redmon, Moeves at Boone, there was a good group in Ninth Region in 81.

 

But, with all due respect to the mythical 81 Simon Kenton Pioneers (and I know I'm gonna get beat up for this opinion), if you could go back to the day before the state tournament started in 1981, nobody was predicting that that team was going to one day be heralded as the best from northern Kentucky, or that the Ninth Region was particularly strong that year. If the ONLY criterion you use is what team won a state championship, then obviously 81 SK is the best team ever. But if you use ANY OTHER CRITERIA - dominance in northern Kentucky, consistency, even talent as measured by college recruiters, 1981 is a pretty mediocre year, particularly if you take out one week in March. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they brought home a state title to N.Ky., and they get a lot of credit for being the only squad that's ever been able to do that, but I don't think that that automatically defines them as the best team in the history of N.Ky. or that as the best year for the Ninth Region. To prove my point, they obviously didn't dominate northern Kentucky the way a lot of other teams have, and, prior to the state tournament there was no significant Div 1 attention to anyone, even McKinley (see Ryan Ernst's column from last week). They had a great run in the state tournament, and beat a very good Moore team with an All-American, but that one week shouldn't really change who that team was or what the quality of the play by Simon Kenton, or in the Ninth Region as a whole, was for that year. Remember, as juniors the SK team was blown out by Dicky Beal's and Holmes - I think if we were being honest, for anyone that saw any of those games would not have come away thinking "those guys are good - they're just a year away from winning the state". It's impossible to fully compare teams from different years, but my bet would be that anyone that played against the 80 Holmes team and 81 Simon Kenton team would have chosen to play Simon Kenton.

 

Overall, if you're gonna take the Ninth Region from top to bottom, I think you gotta go with a year like 2003, when you had three Div 1's, two of whom were big time Div 1, and another outstanding team that won the region. I could be wrong about this, but I think prior to the 81 state tournament the only D1 interest in anybody was Turney at CovCath, and that was Marshall. Compare that to Brock (EKU), Neltner (LSU) and Doellman (Xavier), and all three failed to win the region. My point is just because Simon Kenton won the state in 81 doesn't, in my opinion, make them the best team or 81 the best year ever from N.Ky. - a blown call in 78 and a last second bomb in 67 do not make the difference between the greatest team ever and all the rest. As a northern Kentuckian, I appreciate the magnitude of the 81 state championship, but it shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of other great teams and players that, on every other level and by any other measure other than winning the final game, were superior.

 

That's just my opinion, so bring it on everybody that thinks its sour grapes. For the record, it isn't - I give props to 81 SK for doing a feat that no other team has been able to pull off. I just don't think looking through the prism of the state championship should change everything else. Just because Simon Kenton got hot and won the state does not, in my opinion, elevate an otherwise pretty mediocre year in Ninth Region basketball from top to bottom.

 

Here's my take. If we're gonna look at total talent pool though, here's what you get with '81 (and I may have some of these wrong and/or missed some):

Dixon (SK) - EKU

McKinley (SK) - UK

Turney (CC) - Marshall, then Houston Rockets - 7th round

Moeves (Boone) - Berea

Coffman (Boone) - Cumberland, then Tenessee Tech (I think)

Smith (Boone) - Berea (I think)

Thomas (Connor) - Cumberland

Rhomes (CC) - Thomas More

Robinson (Connor) - Hardin Simmons

Anderson (Walton) - school in Mississippi

Burns (Walton) - NKU

Martin (Walton) - Berea

Fisher (Highlands) - Thomas More

Almost 120 posts with no mention of Todd Clark. A former member of this board would be going nuts if still around... :lol:

Here's my take. If we're gonna look at total talent pool though, here's what you get with '81 (and I may have some of these wrong and/or missed some):

Dixon (SK) - EKU

McKinley (SK) - UK

Turney (CC) - Marshall, then Houston Rockets - 7th round

Moeves (Boone) - Berea

Coffman (Boone) - Cumberland, then Tenessee Tech (I think)

Smith (Boone) - Berea (I think)

Thomas (Connor) - Cumberland

Rhomes (CC) - Thomas More

Robinson (Connor) - Hardin Simmons

Anderson (Walton) - school in Mississippi

Burns (Walton) - NKU

Martin (Walton) - Berea

Fisher (Highlands) - Thomas More

 

Didn't Coffman start at EKU?

Bill Meier (SK) - Thomas More

Tom Cowens (NC)- signed with Navy then attended Centre with his brother Jerry

David Simpson (Newport)- EKU on football

I think Romes & Fischer were both '80 and along with Lenihan (Holy Cross) went to Thomas More

Here's my take. If we're gonna look at total talent pool though, here's what you get with '81 (and I may have some of these wrong and/or missed some):

Dixon (SK) - EKU

McKinley (SK) - UK

Turney (CC) - Marshall, then Houston Rockets - 7th round

Moeves (Boone) - Berea

Coffman (Boone) - Cumberland, then Tenessee Tech (I think)

Smith (Boone) - Berea (I think)

Thomas (Connor) - Cumberland

Rhomes (CC) - Thomas More

Robinson (Connor) - Hardin Simmons

Anderson (Walton) - school in Mississippi

Burns (Walton) - NKU

Martin (Walton) - Berea

Fisher (Highlands) - Thomas More

 

 

Jeff Fischer (Highlands) - Class of 80.

HHS class of 81 produced no college bball players.

Jeff Fischer (Highlands) - Class of 80.

HHS class of 81 produced no college bball players.

 

Didn't Freddy Terry play at NKU?