January 25, 200818 yr I am not a lawyer but if this is law, it is law that is broken all the time. Could this KRS be referring to the fact that children have to go to school? Again, I am not a lawyer but if what you state is the case explain to me how it is lawful for any student to pay tuition to go to a public school because it happens all the time. Just to be clear, when I am talking about there being no boundaries I mean that any school is free to accept out of district pupils who apply. In other words, there are no boundaries if a school wants to accept an out of district pupil. Since you disagree Hearsay, are you saying schools are not free to accept out of district pupils who apply? And if your answer is yes, why isn't it enforced? Leatherneck, I am asking for your opinion too since Hearsay played the leatherneck card. As Hearsay pointed out in his last comment, extending boundaries and accepting out of district students are two different things although some of the subleties may be lossed on people. Extending boundaries would force students formerly outside the district into the district, yet the parents would not be able to vote in the school board elections for that district. Whereas, allowing an out of district to voluntarily attend the school does not force that loss of voting right on anyone. What is done currently is the latter and to the best of my knowledge is completely legal. I've not researched the matter but am relying on simple logic. It occurs all the time and I'm sure plenty of school board attorneys and the KDE's general counsel have looked into it and "blessed" it. Your thoughts Hearsay?
January 25, 200818 yr The real telling thing in this picture about some coaches getting mad and responding through the listserve is not how many responded, but in how many did not respond. ???? Most people believe that the list serve is a place to get information not fuss or complain.
January 25, 200818 yr In many rural areas, school boards have reciprocal agreements with surrounding counties to accept kids who may live just across the county line but not near a bus route for that county. If public school students are attending public schools in another county, it's likely a bordering county in which a reciprocal agreement is in place and voted on by the school board. To my knowledge, a student in Hopkinsville can't attend Bowling Green High because there would be no agreement in place. However, a student in Bowling Green could attend University Heights Academy in Hopkinsville without such agreement. They can still attend any school they want they would just have to pay tuition instead of getting the ADA money when there is an agreement.
January 25, 200818 yr ???? Most people believe that the list serve is a place to get information not fuss or complain. I agree with this also. So I guess you are saying Lexington Catholics coach is not one of them? Yesterday I talked to five different coaches, from four different schools, that thought it was hilarious. Thats kinda where I drew my conclusion from them and their thoughts.
January 25, 200818 yr Again, in case anyone forgot, you can't self impose restrictions on your own school district and then complain that others won't do the same. The practice is not only stupid but it is un-American.Come on Ru... we all remember the rousing success of Prohibition... :lol:
January 25, 200818 yr As Hearsay pointed out in his last comment, extending boundaries and accepting out of district students are two different things although some of the subleties may be lossed on people. Extending boundaries would force students formerly outside the district into the district, yet the parents would not be able to vote in the school board elections for that district. Whereas, allowing an out of district to voluntarily attend the school does not force that loss of voting right on anyone. What is done currently is the latter and to the best of my knowledge is completely legal. I've not researched the matter but am relying on simple logic. It occurs all the time and I'm sure plenty of school board attorneys and the KDE's general counsel have looked into it and "blessed" it. Your thoughts Hearsay? Thanks lneck. The point is everyone, you can go to school anywhere you want. You may have to pay at some places and not others but at the end of the day there is no "rule or law" that restricts you from sending your son or daughter to any school in Kentucky no matter where you live.
January 25, 200818 yr As Hearsay pointed out in his last comment, extending boundaries and accepting out of district students are two different things although some of the subleties may be lossed on people. Extending boundaries would force students formerly outside the district into the district, yet the parents would not be able to vote in the school board elections for that district. Whereas, allowing an out of district to voluntarily attend the school does not force that loss of voting right on anyone. What is done currently is the latter and to the best of my knowledge is completely legal. I've not researched the matter but am relying on simple logic. It occurs all the time and I'm sure plenty of school board attorneys and the KDE's general counsel have looked into it and "blessed" it. Your thoughts Hearsay? So you can't extend boundaries but you can accept out of district students?
January 25, 200818 yr Thanks lneck. The point is everyone, you can go to school anywhere you want. You may have to pay at some places and not others but at the end of the day there is no "rule or law" that restricts you from sending your son or daughter to any school in Kentucky no matter where you live. Sorry Ru, the bolded part is not accurate. If you want to attend a public school outside the district you reside in, you can only do so if the public district you want to attend accepts out of district students. If they do not, you have to move into the district.
January 25, 200818 yr I have asked my local State Board representative for the Board's lawyer's legal opinion regarding the law as it relates to interlocal compacts and/or simply allowing tuition to be paid. I agree that if a public school board can accept any student whom applies, outside the district or otherwise, merely through the payment of full tuition, then the public schools' legal argument about unlevel playing ground (feeder territories) has little merit. There are probably some practical arguments that could be made, but in the end it really comes down to the question of why a parent would choose to pay to send to a private school as opposed to a public one. In other words, if I, living in Bardstown, could get duPont Manual to accept my son by paying full tuition, then I would do so. At that point, all of the JCPS arguments about unlevel playing field with T and X go out the window, IMVHO.
January 25, 200818 yr I have asked my local State Board representative for the Board's lawyer's legal opinion regarding the law as it relates to interlocal compacts and/or simply allowing tuition to be paid. I agree that if a public school board can accept any student whom applies, outside the district or otherwise, merely through the payment of full tuition, then the public schools' legal argument about unlevel playing ground (feeder territories) has little merit. There are probably some practical arguments that could be made, but in the end it really comes down to the question of why a parent would choose to pay to send to a private school as opposed to a public one. In other words, if I, living in Bardstown, could get duPont Manual to accept my son by paying full tuition, then I would do so. At that point, all of the JCPS arguments about unlevel playing field with T and X go out the window, IMVHO. And that opens up a huge can of worms regarding athletics. Schools only have a certain amount of room. And they begin to pick and choose. They let in the star athlete, the kid with a 36 on the ACT but the kid with the discipline record doesn't get in or the kid that brings nothing to the school in regards to extracurricular activities.
January 25, 200818 yr Sorry Ru, the bolded part is not accurate. If you want to attend a public school outside the district you reside in, you can only do so if the public district you want to attend accepts out of district students. If they do not, you have to move into the district.The whole point here LN is the fact that each district can "choose" to accept students from outside their defined district or not. If they choose not to, fine, but it makes little sense to pout around and point fingers at the schools/districts who choose to open their enrollment policies. Some religions refuse to dance, some refuse to drink or smoke, the Amish refuse to use electricity. That's all good and may actually be a more healthy way to live, but what works good as a willful and self-imposed lifestyle falls apart when it is mandated for everyone. This is clearly different on the surface, but not in principle.
January 25, 200818 yr The whole point here LN is the fact that each district can "choose" to accept students from outside their defined district. If they choose not to, fine, but don't pout around and point fingers at the schools/districts who choose to open their enrollment policies. And again, some districts because of geographical location could open their doors and it mean nothing. While for those in Fayette, Jefferson and NKY, it could mean a lot.
January 25, 200818 yr And again, some districts because of geographical location could open their doors and it mean nothing. While for those in Fayette, Jefferson and NKY, it could mean a lot.I understand, but this is by no means a simple difference between public and private schools. It occurs in all schools.
January 25, 200818 yr Sorry Ru, the bolded part is not accurate. If you want to attend a public school outside the district you reside in, you can only do so if the public district you want to attend accepts out of district students. If they do not, you have to move into the district. How about this lneck: The point is everyone, you can go to school anywhere you want (as long as that school is willing to accept you) Furthermore, there are no rules or laws that stop any school from accepting any students, the only rules are self-imposed, local rules. You may have to pay at some places and not others but at the end of the day there is no "rule or law" that restricts you from sending your son or daughter to any school in Kentucky no matter where you live.
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