Wireman Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 And purely based on being a horse's hind quarters, he shouldn't be alive to enjoy it, IMO. Agree to disagree... Horse's hind quarters = he got caught:sssh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueinsanity Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Pete Rose is the man..Love him or hate him, the man belongs in the hall of fame and it's sad that he isn't... Couldn't agree more Buzzer! :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 If that was the case, Babe Ruth needs to be removed fromt eh HOF immediately. The Hall of Fame is for baseball careers, not personalities. I think Rose is a HOFer. Never said his personality. His accomplishments are noted in the HOF. His all-time hit record, I believe, is in the HOF. He as a player is not. You can honor his accomplishments while not honoring him as an individual. Peter Edward is the REASON why he is not in the HOF. He wonders why he is not, he needs to look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Horse's hind quarters = he got caught:sssh: That's not what I was referring to. Pretty much everything he's done SINCE being caught. Admitting to sell books, acting like a jerk at a kids clinic...etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetimelover Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Babe Ruth did not admittingly break a baseball rule that gets you banned from the game. Listen, I absolutely believe that Pete deserves to be in the HOF because of his on the field accomplishments. Then again, nothing he has done since being banned from baseball can make anyone believe that he is truly remorseful. I want Pete to be in the HOF, but posthumously. That's one acceptance speech none of us want our kids to hear... :thumb:I totally and completely agree. The "Just Shut Up" award could feasibly be changed to the "Pete Rose Award." He only has his mouth to thank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 What a joke. Rose goes on Best D Sports Show a couple of years ago, after the release of his book. During the interview the issue of Bonds comes up. Rose says, "He didn't do anything illegal. Steroids weren't against the rules when he used them." Then, two months later, his son was arrested for distributing 'roids, I believe. Now, he turns face and says that he is against 'roids. Without baseball, this guy would be hanging out at River Downs and West High football games talking about how great he was as an athlete, he'd be Al Bundy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Dad Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Pete needs to shut up. Everytime he opens his mouth, he gives us another reason why he shouldn't ever be voted to be into the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo42171 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Something that everyone forgets is that Pete had two offers from then commissioner Bart Gimatti. One was to admit to everything in the Dowd report and be suspended from baseball for 5 years. The second was that baseball would neither “confirm nor deny” that Rose bet on baseball, receive a lifetime ban but be eligible for reinstatement in one year. Pete’s attorneys thought that they could punch enough holes in the Dowd report that baseball would reinstate him in one year, so he took his attorneys advice. Then Gimatti has a news conference to announce the punishment and breaches the agreement that he and Pete signed by saying “Yes, I believe Rose bet on baseball….” Pete’s attorneys were ready to sue baseball for breach of contract because of those statements then Gimatti dies suddenly of a heart attack. I believe that 1) Rose took some very bad advice from his attorneys and 2) if Bart Gimatti didn’t die Pete would be in baseball and the HOF today and that we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit29 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Bart double crossed Pete. Pete "the Hit King" Rose signed a statement saying he would be able to apply for reinstatement after one year, however, Bart dies and Bud won't even look at a reinstatement. Just take it under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I don't think there is anyone in sports I dislike more than Pete Rose....The guy is the definition of the word loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnthr4life Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Pete does not belong in the HOF. Last time I checked Shoeless Joe wasn't in. He broke the "cardinal sin" of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Bart double crossed Pete. Pete "the Hit King" Rose signed a statement saying he would be able to apply for reinstatement after one year, however, Bart dies and Bud won't even look at a reinstatement. Just take it under consideration. How was he double-crossed? He applied. That was what the agreement said. He could apply. Never said he would receive reinstatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 How was he double-crossed? He applied. That was what the agreement said. He could apply. Never said he would receive reinstatement. Because he died. That's a scam if I've ever seen one...:creepy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzer beater Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I don't know alot about Babe Ruth, that was just the first name that came to mind. My point was just that personalities shouldn't have anything to do with it. Even betting on baseball didn't have an effect on Rose's skills, though. Purely based on baseball talent and production, he has to be in the Hall. If that was the case, Babe Ruth needs to be removed fromt eh HOF immediately. The Hall of Fame is for baseball careers, not personalities. I think Rose is a HOFer. I agree. His personalty should have nothing to do with the man going into the hall of fame. No one in baseball history deserves it more than Pete Rose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I agree. His personalty should have nothing to do with the man going into the hall of fame. No one in baseball history deserves it more than Pete Rose.. Your absolutely right in that he does deserve it. He also deserves the lifetime suspension he is serving for the actions he took in gambling. It was HIS ACTIONS that got him suspended and HIS FAULT he, as a player, is not in the HOF. His accomplishments as the all time hit king is in there. Just not him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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