That may be true, but should they be advocating separating those that do from the competition and in effect lowering the bar? Is that what this country has come to?

 

I hate to inform you but that is where this country has been for years, decades even.

 

Minority hiring practices.

Free loans to genders, minorities.

Free loans you start a business in low income communities.

This country has policies to prop up those type of communities all over the place.

Tariffs to help our businesses compete with overseas products.

 

Heck, in MLB, you cannot hire a manager UNTIL you interview a minority candidate.

 

And those things are GOOD THINGS.

EXACTLY!!! Those are the schools I don't feel sorry for...

 

I concur.

It happens every year.

But at one point wasn't Sam Walton first store just a Mom and Pop place and he made it into something bigger and better with just plain old hard work? My point is, that the Wal*mart stores that we know today, didn't just happen overnight but took a lot of hard work for years and years to evolve into what they are today....

 

 

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Glad this was mentioned and really what Wal*Mart has become has occurred in a relatively short period of time. Great analogy!

In other words, yes...

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Glad this was mentioned and really what Wal*Mart has become has occurred in a relatively short period of time. Great analogy!

 

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Post #60.

 

This is what happens when you don't finish reading the thread before posting...

One more thing and I will quit this childish arguement that I thought was a disscussion. In no shape form or fashion is it fair for a team the dresses nearly a 100 commited football players that have support from home, community, and school compete against schools that do good to get 40/50 players out for various reasons.

 

Most of the kids that go to private schools have parents/guardians that are very supportive of them thus the fact they are at the private school. Public schools on the other hand have kids from all backgrounds and don't have the support at home to excel in anything let alone sports. Alot of them have more pressing issues at home instead of going to after school workouts or practice. Unfortuantly that is the truth of our society and world today. I just don't see how it fair for the private or open enrollment schools bully the public schools. That is a behavior that has not been premited in society for hundreds of years now.

 

This in no way is a blackeye on the private/open enrollment schools. They are and should be very proud of what they accomplish. I personally love to watch those teams play, but not against schools with a 1/3 of the numbers. For most of those schools practice is more challenging than the games with their 100+ players.

 

Of coures the private school kids are bigger, faster and stronger they better be for all of the advantages they have!

 

 

BTW Leonidas and the 7,000 spartans/greeks were eventually overan by the 180,000 persians at the battle of Thermopylae. It was not until all the Greeks united together did they win.

True, and i agree with you in that the open enrollment/independent should have a multiplier as well. That would affect Beechwood and Highlands. I'm starting to see a trend. At least 4 of the six champs had paid tuition or open enrollment. Public schools have a hard time competing with these schools when students are choosing to attend there for these power house football programs. Sure public schools have years where they are outstanding as well. The difference is these schools never seem to have rebuilding years, where many public schools will spend 2-3 rebuilding years for every outstanding season.

 

Kenton Co has open enrollment!

There are also a lot of rules and regulations that Walmart has to abide by and protects the mom and pop stores.

 

Walmart lost millions in an antitrust lawsuit several years back with what is called "predatory pricing" where they were pricing their products below cost in the hopes of stealing away the mom and pop customers and running them out of business and not providing fair competition. You could say that the government protects mom and pop stores and "levels the playing field" between them and Walmart.

 

But that doesn' happen in real life, does it?

 

Getting way off subject here but.

 

Wal-Mart has been accused of selling merchandise at such low costs that competitors have tried to sue them for predatory pricing (intentionally selling a product at low cost in order to drive competitors out of the market). In 1995, in the case of Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. v. American Drugs, Inc., American Drugs accused Wal-Mart of selling items at too low a cost for the purpose of injuring competitors and destroying competition. The Supreme Court of Arkansas ruled in favor of Wal-Mart saying that their pricing, including the use of loss leaders, was not predatory pricing.[17] In 2000, the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection accused Wal-Mart of selling butter, milk, laundry detergent, and other staple goods at low cost, with the intention of forcing competitors out of business and gaining a monopoly in local markets.[47] Crest Foods filed a similar lawsuit in Oklahoma, accusing Wal-Mart of predatory pricing on several of its products, in an effort to drive their own company-owned store in Edmond, Oklahoma out of business.[48] Both cases were settled out of court with no fine and no admission of wrongdoing. In the Wisconsin case, Wal-Mart was so confident of its innocence they agreed that Wisconsin could double or triple fine them should Wal-Mart ever violate the predatory pricing law.

 

Oct. 1, 2001

 

 

WAL-MART SETTLES PREDATORY PRICING CHARGE

 

Wal-Mart admits no wrongdoing and will not pay a fine in a settlement reached with the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection over a predatory pricing complaint filed by the agency last year. The company will, however, face double or triple fines for any future violations, according to the terms of the agreement.

 

The complaint accused Wal-Mart of selling butter, milk, laundry detergent, and other staple goods below cost at stores in Beloit, Oshkosh, Racine, Tomah, and West Bend. A bottle of laundry detergent that cost Wal-Mart $6.51, for example, was sold for less than $5 at several stores. The company's intention, according to the complaint, was to force competitors out of business, gain a monopoly in local markets, and ultimately recoup its losses through higher prices. State officials filed the complaint after Wal-Mart failed to take corrective action following several warning letters sent as early as 1993.

 

Although most, if not all, states have received numerous complaints from small business owners about Wal-Mart's anti-competitive practices, Wisconsin is the first state to investigate predatory pricing at the company's outlets and file a formal complaint.

 

I'll bring it back to the subject. Predatory pricing did not cause Wal*Mart to go from a mom/pop store in rural Arkansas to a multinational giant. Likewise HHS, T, X, Beechwood, CCH, Boyle County (B.C. is honestly probably the best example), did not go from the base to the summit of the mountain via some unfair advantage. The common denominator which you addressed in your previous post is why they are at the summit.

 

that they have a community that 1) knows and understands the commitment it takes; 2) is willing to make that commitment; 3) financially can afford to make that commitment.

One more thing and I will quit this childish arguement that I thought was a disscussion. In no shape form or fashion is it fair for a team the dresses nearly a 100 commited football players that have support from home, community, and school compete against schools that do good to get 40/50 players out for various reasons.

 

Bell Co. has 436 boys according to what I found in classification stats for realignment to 6 classes.

 

Lexington Catholic has 447 boys.

 

There are 22 other schools in class 4A that have more boys in thier school than Lexington Catholic. Why is it a problem if 25% of the boys in school would like to participate in football? Many would think it has something to do with what is below.

 

Most of the kids that go to private schools have parents/guardians that are very supportive of them thus the fact they are at the private school. Public schools on the other hand have kids from all backgrounds and don't have the support at home to excel in anything let alone sports. Alot of them have more pressing issues at home instead of going to after school workouts or practice. Unfortuantly that is the truth of our society and world today. I just don't see how it fair for the private or open enrollment schools bully the public schools. That is a behavior that has not been premited in society for hundreds of years now.

 

If you don't think that there are quite a few kids in Private schools that all of the above apply to, then you need to open your eyes. There are so many more kids than people realize in Private schools who's life is not all sunshine and rainbows. Some have problems with everything you would see in a Public school. Are the numbers in quantity the same, no, but Private Schools are not a building of people from a "White Bread" life.

Not apples to apples my friend. Bell Co. or any other public schools male students are not equall to Lex. Cath when it comes to oppurtunities, and especially athletics. In this day in time when off-season is more important to your sucess it makes it harder and harder for public schools to compete. Those kids are so limited by busing and travel distance that it makes it hard for them to build theirselves like their more well-off compeitors. No way should a team with 10-15 players in every class (9-12) be expected to comptete with teams that have 30+.

Are the numbers in quantity the same, no, but Private Schools are not a building of people from a "White Bread" life.

 

This sentance sums up this whole thread. IMO most of the people that has posted on this thread are avoiding the facts and/or being naive to the facts. I mean if one can afford to drive a cadilac then fine, buy one. But dont deny the fact that you can pick and choose which one of the fleet that you want to buy.

I hate to inform you but that is where this country has been for years, decades even.

 

Minority hiring practices.

Free loans to genders, minorities.

Free loans you start a business in low income communities.

This country has policies to prop up those type of communities all over the place.

Tariffs to help our businesses compete with overseas products.

 

Heck, in MLB, you cannot hire a manager UNTIL you interview a minority candidate.

 

And those things are GOOD THINGS.

 

 

And that points out again one of our philosophical differences. I do not think those things you listed are good things at all. My immigrant grandparents had none of those things, yet through long periods of hard work and a lot of self sacrifice built a decent life for themselves and my parents. With the current thinking of people always needing someone else to help them succeed, its amazing to think how my grandparents did it.

Uhmmm. Sorry. What was the question?