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Beechwood vs. Owensboro Catholic Predictions/Updates (2A State Championship)

Beechwood vs Owensboro Catholic 133 members have voted

  1. 1. Who will be the 2 A state champion?

    • Beechwood
      74%
    • Owensboro Catholic
      25%

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Poll closed on 12/06/2024 at 09:00 PM

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35 minutes ago, TimeWillTell said:

Not dreaming just standing by my prediction. I was wrong last week though vs Somerset. 

You will be wrong about this game. OC may win but 2 or 3 td's that's a dream.

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  • And possibly the greatest all around football player to ever suit up for Beechwood.  D1 QB and made almost every tackle on defense as a LB. 

  • snakesnot_2000
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    Yeah but I believe Beechwood has better Football players. 

  • DevilMayCare
    DevilMayCare

    Even when Beechwood isn't the more talented team, their well earned reputation for superior preparation and execution can carry them to victory over bigger, faster opponents.  But when those elem

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TP94 Power Ratings from last week:

Owensboro Catholic 89.78
Beechwood 73

calpreps.com projection:

Regular season (neutral field)
Owensboro Catholic 31 Beechwood 28 

Playoffs (neutral field)
Beechwood 31 Owensboro Catholic 30 

I am not going to put this explanation in all six threads but this is from calpreps on their playoff bumps and why the projections are different for the regular season and the post season:

RATINGS FIXES   (Playoff Bumps)

Admittedly a long overdue change, when projecting playoff games, we will now be acknowledging and taking into account programs which tend to "step it up" at playoff time.  No sense in having our system be "surprised" when this happens year after year with certain programs.  Our projection system will now expect it to occur.

California fans are likely familiar with programs such as Van Nuys Birmingham and Sacramento Grant, which tend to have somewhat lackluster performances during the regular season, only to flip the proverbial switch and "turn it on" come playoff time.  The reasons why this happens of course vary from school to school.  Sometimes it has to do with having raw D1 talent that takes some time to be "coached up".  Sometimes it has to do with coaching emphasis-- certain programs (Birmingham most definitely being one) tend to deemphasize the importance of scoreboard-success in the regular season and openly discuss the fact that they view regular season games as essentially tune-ups for the playoffs.  While one can debate the merits of the varied philosophies of treating every individual game as and end in itself vs. having a focus on the goal at the end of the season...it's obviously not our job to state a preference.  It however is our job to give our site viewers the best possible prediction of what's going to happen that we can, and this change of no longer being oblivious to how various programs fare in the playoffs is a step in the right direction to do that.

Texas fans (as well as those who follow h.s. football nationally) certainly are very familiar with programs like Duncanville and DeSoto.  Those two are interesting cases because they "step up" at playoff time as much as any teams in the country, but they play like elite national-level teams in the regular season as well.  It's just that there seems to be "another gear" that they're able to hit even beyond that.  It's important to realize that we're comparing a school to itself when attempting to analyze whether there's an increase (or decrease, or no change at all) in success at playoff time as compared to the regular season.  As such, you'll see elite national programs who don't fare well at all in this metric.  Las Vegas Bishop Gorman being the best example, because, no, frankly, they don't step it up at playoff time.  Because they don't need to.  Their regular season is effectively their "playoffs", as they play multiple games against top national teams annually.  Again, the comparison is with yourself.  An excellent program may just happen to be no better at playoff time than during the regular season.  That's not a knock on the program.

So, how does this actually work?  It's pretty simple math.  Using our projection ratings, we just compare how a team's rating at the end of the season looks vs. their rating during the regular season.  As an example, say a team is a 30 at the end of the playoffs, and was a 25 at the end of the regular season.  That would of course be a "+5".  We look at the three previous years (with more recent seasons being weighed more heavily) when determining playoff bumps (or drops) for the current season.  Maybe the team in the example with the +5 had a couple other recent years which weren't quite as impressive and ends up with a weighted average of +3.  Simply put, they get a 3 point playoff "bump" and any playoff games they may play this season will reflect that when we project the score for their games.  So if they otherwise would have been predicted to lose by 10, for example, that would move to being projected to lose by 7.  (Although of course the other team's playoff bump/drop would need to be factored in as well.)

To see this in action, check out our project a matchup screen, which now has hypothetical projections listed both ways (if it's a regular season game or playoff game).

It's important to note that this only affects projections for playoff games and has no effect at all on a team's regular season rating.  Teams in areas where your association uses power ratings to determine seeding and selection for playoffs will see no change in that process.

https://www.calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2024/ratings_fixes6.pl

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

Question for the Beechwood fans (or anyone who knows the answer).

How many championship games will this make for Beechwood Offensive Coordinator Greg Hergott? 

I think it may be #14 combined as a player and coach. 

Pretty sure this will be his 17th total.

4 as a player and 13th as the OC.

Just now, gbballfan21 said:

Pretty sure this will be his 17th total.

4 as a player and 13th as the OC.

And possibly the greatest all around football player to ever suit up for Beechwood.  D1 QB and made almost every tackle on defense as a LB. 

Massey Ratings Predict:

Beechwood 35 Owensboro Catholic 34

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Whomever thinks there will be a 2/3 TD difference, would you mind passing me what you are drinking that has to be some mighty good whatever. The only way I see either team winning by that margin is someone got hurt (GOD FORBID) in the game who was a key player for either team. I think this game will come down to who has the ball last!

3 minutes ago, Big East Zebra said:

Whomever thinks there will be a 2/3 TD difference, would you mind passing me what you are drinking that has to be some mighty good whatever. The only way I see either team winning by that margin is someone got hurt (GOD FORBID) in the game who was a key player for either team. I think this game will come down to who has the ball last!

I am not saying that but with a little luck or a couple of turnovers, who knows. 

10 minutes ago, Big East Zebra said:

Whomever thinks there will be a 2/3 TD difference, would you mind passing me what you are drinking that has to be some mighty good whatever. The only way I see either team winning by that margin is someone got hurt (GOD FORBID) in the game who was a key player for either team. I think this game will come down to who has the ball last!

According to T94 Ratings. It's 2 TDs OC. 

3 minutes ago, TimeWillTell said:

According to T94 Ratings. It's 2 TDs OC. 

I don't know, but I don't think this game is going to be played by ratings or on paper, but who knows I've been wrong before!

4 hours ago, gbballfan21 said:

Pretty sure this will be his 17th total.

4 as a player and 13th as the OC.

That's actually insane to think about one man having that big of a hand on 17 state titles. 

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3 hours ago, TimeWillTell said:

According to T94 Ratings. It's 2 TDs OC. 

In TP94, Owensboro Catholic was 37 points higher than Somerset. They won by 14.

LCA was ranked 15 points above Beechwood. Beechwood won by 20.

2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

In TP94, Owensboro Catholic was 37 points higher than Somerset. They won by 14.

LCA was ranked 15 points above Beechwood. Beechwood won by 20.

Right and I hate to say it but the TP94 Ratings are on the struggle bus this year. 

6 hours ago, theguru said:

And possibly the greatest all around football player to ever suit up for Beechwood.  D1 QB and made almost every tackle on defense as a LB. 

Hergs knocked the crap out of me a few times in practice. 

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