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War in Ukraine

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It looks like the Russian Army is trying to cut off access to the sea and take control of the Nuclear power plants in the country. They're well on their way to accomplishing both. Once those two objectives are achieved then Russia can turn off a large percentage of electricity in the country and completely shut off importation of cargo containers of food and supplies at all seaports. 

At that point Russia can slow down and just wait the Ukrainians out.

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    Very scary times.  I have been reading quite a bit about this, and won’t pretend to be an expert, but I still cannot believe that Russia is so brazen and is getting away with this.  Prayers to the peo

  • Jumper_Dad
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    Another Russian General has been killed.  Ukrainian intelligence intercepted a call between two FSB agents discussing it. They were using regular SIM card cell phones because their secure communi

  • "You started it." Signed,  Everyone

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On 3/5/2022 at 3:36 PM, Jumper_Dad said:

Russia and China both have bragged about and shown off their newest fighters, their F22 answers. The only problem is about all they have done so far is build a few demonstrators or test versions. Neither air force appears to be as advanced as they try to proclaim. Both rely on using huge numbers and incurring huge losses to achieve objectives. 

Their anti-air defense systems are very strong. However when it come to air to air combat, as @TheDeuce said, "They don't want that smoke!"

I coached a kid who went to the Air Force academy.  He told me they did an op, five F-15’s vs one F-22, the 22 downed all 5 and nobody made contact with the 22.  He told me during debriefs, if the 22 is contacted, the pilot has to explain why to the upper brass.

3 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

I coached a kid who went to the Air Force academy.  He told me they did an op, five F-15’s vs one F-22, the 22 downed all 5 and nobody made contact with the 22.  He told me during debriefs, if the 22 is contacted, the pilot has to explain why to the upper brass.

I heard exactly the same thing only it was ten F15 fighters against one F22.

Oil is at $126 dollars folks.  If you had told me this a few months ago I would have laughed at you.  This is insane, $4.00+ a gallon is a lock soon.

1 hour ago, theguru said:

I heard exactly the same thing only it was ten F15 fighters against one F22.


I can only imagine how many pilots have challenged F-22 guys.  The biggest thing with a pilot is, the cooler their call-sign, typically the weaker of a pilot they are.  If you ever go up against “Bozo” you’re screwed.

I’ve seen the F22’s fly in Dayton and Norfolk, if you ever get the chance do it!  The thing with the F22 is, even if the pilot is “off” that day, the onboard computers compensate for human faults, deficiencies.

Ukraine can’t fly the F22 or even the F35, we can help with with F16’s or F18’s.

 

Russian police have been seen stopping citizens and scrolling through their phones. They are looking at Text messages, emails, any outside news about the war. Refusal leads to immediately being detained and they still go through your phone.

It has also been made illegal to spread any news about the war that portrays Russia in a negative way and is contrary to official reports. The penalty is 15 years in prison. It has been reported that the last independent news agency in Russia has ceased operation.

1 hour ago, John Anthony said:


I can only imagine how many pilots have challenged F-22 guys.  The biggest thing with a pilot is, the cooler their call-sign, typically the weaker of a pilot they are.  If you ever go up against “Bozo” you’re screwed.

I’ve seen the F22’s fly in Dayton and Norfolk, if you ever get the chance do it!  The thing with the F22 is, even if the pilot is “off” that day, the onboard computers compensate for human faults, deficiencies.

Ukraine can’t fly the F22 or even the F35, we can help with with F16’s or F18’s.

 

They would need to be trained on US planes, that's why they are asking for Migs. Their pilots are already trained on them and they have the infrastructure in place to maintain those planes.

2 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

They would need to be trained on US planes, that's why they are asking for Migs. Their pilots are already trained on them and they have the infrastructure in place to maintain those planes.

Sounds like NATO only has 70 Migs altogether.  I wonder how many they can spare? 10-20?

3 hours ago, John Anthony said:

Oil is at $126 dollars folks.  If you had told me this a few months ago I would have laughed at you.  This is insane, $4.00+ a gallon is a lock soon.

The price of freedom. What can we do to support Ukraine? Pay whatever the price is at the pump and be glad we have gas to put in our vehicles. 

1 hour ago, John Anthony said:

Sounds like NATO only has 70 Migs altogether.  I wonder how many they can spare? 10-20?

The US was offering to replace Migs sent from Poland with F15s and F16s. Poland already has F16s so they are already up to speed training on them. So I'm sure they send them all if F15s and F16s are replacing them.

Russia is trying to destroy all air bases with Cruise Missiles to deter this. They have also said that even if it with Ukrainian pilots, if they launch from another country that country may be considered a combatant as well.

6 hours ago, John Anthony said:

Sounds like NATO only has 70 Migs altogether.  I wonder how many they can spare? 10-20?

What bases will they operate from?  Fuel?  Support teams?  Parts, armament packages?  How would they even be "sent"?  Ferried in by NATO pilots?  How would the NATO leave then?  

The "send jets" theme has seemed like a fantasy from first day it was mentioned. 

5 hours ago, Bluegrasscard said:

What bases will they operate from?  Fuel?  Support teams?  Parts, armament packages?  How would they even be "sent"?  Ferried in by NATO pilots?  How would the NATO leave then?  

The "send jets" theme has seemed like a fantasy from first day it was mentioned. 

Poland would be the middleman.

12 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

The price of freedom. What can we do to support Ukraine? Pay whatever the price is at the pump and be glad we have gas to put in our vehicles. 

We can change our social media profile pictures too.  Don't forget about that important piece of support.

16 minutes ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

We can change our social media profile pictures too.  Don't forget about that important piece of support.

Thoughts and prayers as we all sit and watch/wait for the sanctions to kick in.

12 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

The price of freedom. What can we do to support Ukraine? Pay whatever the price is at the pump and be glad we have gas to put in our vehicles. 

Pump all the oil and natural gas we can and sell it to the world to backfill/replace Russian oil. 

Give them many more advanced lethal weapons.

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