Cost shouldn’t be an issue. Surely everyone begging for a shot clock will happily donate money to their school districts to get it done. Non-issue.

 

No peep from me on the shot-clock issue, ergo, my paper stays where it is.

People grossly underestimate the amount of volunteers that most (not all) programs would have for something like this. I've pointed it out before, on most teams, there are more than enough coaches and players where someone could be designated to work, before you ever get into the parents or other possible volunteers.

 

Cost is the biggest hurdle, and why I don't think it will ever happen.

People grossly underestimate the amount of volunteers that most (not all) programs would have for something like this. I've pointed it out before, on most teams, there are more than enough coaches and players where someone could be designated to work, before you ever get into the parents or other possible volunteers.

 

 

It works like that in most programs but it is no where as easy to accomplish as you make it sound. It is wise for all programs to have at least 5 people they can count on in a pinch that are always willing to volunteer their time to the program for whatever reason. In my experiences volunteers are usually parents or people who live and die for the school. Parental volunteers can be problematic sometimes.......

 

 

Also, if I am not mistaken volunteers will have to also volunteer their time to go to training on how to properly run the shot clock.

It works like that in most programs but it is no where as easy to accomplish as you make it sound. It is wise for all programs to have at least 5 people they can count on in a pinch that are always willing to volunteer their time to the program for whatever reason. In my experiences volunteers are usually parents or people who live and die for the school. Parental volunteers can be problematic sometimes.......

 

 

Also, if I am not mistaken volunteers will have to also volunteer their time to go to training on how to properly run the shot clock.

 

We're on the same page. I just think cost is the FAR bigger hurdle.

We're on the same page. I just think cost is the FAR bigger hurdle.

 

Oh it is. Like you said, by far it is the biggest hurdle.

Oh it is. Like you said, by far it is the biggest hurdle.

 

And if scoreboards have to replaced then costs go way up.

Considering the really sad state of quality scoreboard operators this year, it's really hard to be in favor of anything else that can be messed up. I can honestly say that I've never encountered a season where the scoreboard has been so messed up this year. Timekeeping, scorekeeping, everything has been messed up. And so many of the schools that have the really nice scoreboards that list the players and their points and fouls don't even try to use them. When asked why, I've been repeatedly told this year that they can't find anyone who will / can handle them.

 

:no:

And not to be repetitive, but even if cost wasn't an issue, I still think that a shot clock engenders poorer high school basketball.

Every time I contribute to this topic I talk about the operators being the weak link, so I'm glad to see that thread already picked up here. I think we'd go deaf from hearing the complaining shouts from the crowd about the operation of the shot clock.

And not to be repetitive, but even if cost wasn't an issue, I still think that a shot clock engenders poorer high school basketball.

 

At the end of the day this is why I don’t think a shot clock is needed but I honestly don’t care if it is added. I just don’t think it is going to give people the results they expect.

At the end of the day this is why I don’t think a shot clock is needed but I honestly don’t care if it is added. I just don’t think it is going to give people the results they expect.

 

I'm in lockstep with 92. Somebody check my temperature and make sure I'm not sick.

No way, hard no for me. Game already getting too sloppy IMO. Encouraging kids to run and turning these games into track meets will just ruin the overall experience. Kids need to learn good defense gives you a chance to win against superior opponents.

I've scanned this entire thread and haven't seen much discussion on two issues related to the shot clock: referees and number of games.

 

We can all debate the quality of refereeing in KHSAA, but a shot clock ads yet another thing for a stretched officiating pool to monitor during a game. Assuming we aren't going to add instant replay along with a shot clock, a 3-man referee crew is going to be able to determine whether a shot was released before the expiration of the shot clock multiple times per game, determine whether a ball hit the rim & reset the clock, etc. I'm not confident they will do that effectively while still maintaining a decent control on the other officiating duties during the course of play.

 

Additionally, Kentucky schools play up to 30 regular season games per year, many on weeknights. Finding volunteers to staff score book, clock, shot clock, announcer, gate, stats, video, concession stand, etc. is not easy with that many games in addition to JV and freshmen games. Are we going to have a shot clock for those games as well or only varsity? Many neighboring states do not play as many regular season games (Indiana is 22-max) and not as many weeknight games. Friday nights are typically easier to staff than Tuesday.

Watched a 47-42 district semifinal game tonight. At half the score was 20-12. At no point did either team take more than 30 seconds to get a shot off. It was just great defense causing missed shots.

 

I've said it before and I will say it again. Shooting percentages for HS teams are already poor. A shot clock would make it worse, with even more teams shooting sub-30 percent than what I already see. Shot clock in HS is a terrible idea.