We all realize this has nothing to do with the text of the speech and has more to do with diocese lack of trust in the student because of past actions correct?

 

This whole story reeks as a setup and PR stunt. The journalist who wrote the story left out a ton of context. Either willfully or naively.

 

I've also wondered if there is some underlying element why the speech was denied. Could it be that the student has pushed the envelope before and was not trusted? If so, should Holy Cross publicly defend themselves or stick with their high road answer that was given? Strictly based on the news article, Holy Cross/Diocese of Covington looks bad.

I'd be curious to know what some of the left out context is. I've really only seen and heard stuff from the students side.

 

Because it's a student I won't post what I was told. Personally I would of had no beef if the student spoke . But if you go to a Catholic school there are guidelines you must follow that you wouldn't in a public school. If leadership can't trust that you won't create a spectacle then it's within their rights to censor you at a private institution.

I've also wondered if there is some underlying element why the speech was denied. Could it be that the student has pushed the envelope before and was not trusted? If so, should Holy Cross publicly defend themselves or stick with their high road answer that was given? Strictly based on the news article, Holy Cross/Diocese of Covington looks bad.

 

It wasn't Holy Cross's decision.

Because it's a student I won't post what I was told. Personally I would of had no beef if the student spoke . But if you go to a Catholic school there are guidelines you must follow that you wouldn't in a public school. If leadership can't trust that you won't create a spectacle then it's within their rights to censor you at a private institution.

 

I understand. But I wish the school would be more transparent about their decision. Their silence along with the two different explanations (the content, then the missed deadline neither of which seem to hold water), makes the whole scenario look sketchy. That being said, the student in this case, has gotten a ton of positive support, recognition and publicity from the whole incident.

The speech was fine. My guess is that being gay was not fine. Shame on whoever made the choice to not let him speak, and shame on the bishop for not showing up. That also speaks volumes.

 

Best of luck to that young man. I hope the support you have received from the public over this continues to give you the confidence to move forward.

 

Diocese of Covington, here is another reason why people are leaving the Catholic Church.

Here is the speech:

 

“The young people will win” is a mantra that I’m sure many of you have heard if you’ve been attentive to the media recently. It’s a phrase adopted by the prolific Stoneman Douglas teenagers who are advocating for an agenda - our rights to feel secure as humans. We frequently see these individuals behind a computer screen,and therefore we see them as a separate body from us. However, they possess the same capabilities as us graduates. As we enter into the real world, we must remember that we have a voice. Throughout the past four years at Holy Cross, I’ve learned how to utilize my voice to advocate for my beliefs as an ethical individual. I’ve faced opposition in a number of scenarios, but my voice continued to grow in intensity as I faced more adversity. Rather than allowing opposition to silence us,we must utilize it as empowerment. As long as we nurture our minds as youth, we’ll be able to be equally impactful as we encounter the world.

 

“The young people will win” is a mantra that’s progressive by nature, but it suggests there’s one winner and one loser, two sides pitted against each other in a primitive battle of right and wrong. The inherent flaw in this mantra is that it erases the truth​ that we’re all attempting to perpetuate God’s will by bettering the quality of life for those around us. Mr. Eifert has taught me that we’re all battling for the same ideal - the ideal of happiness. He’s a man who embodied the spirit of the Holy Cross community precisely, someone who was rooted in faith, who always aided others, and who used his booming voice for the good of all people. We must use our voices to do the same. Only then can we say we’re “winning”. Rather than gauging victory by what we accomplish on paper, we must gauge victory by the amount of hearts we can cleanse. Many of us have accomplished this at Holy Cross, but we must not lose the same drive once we graduate. We must keep faith as we continue to grow, and we must continue to “win” as we encounter more and more people.

 

“The young people will ​win” because we’re finished being complacent. There’s a misguided notion that wisdom is directly proportional to age, but we’re disproving that daily. Sometimes the wisest are the youngest in our lives, the ones who haven’t yet been desensitized to the atrocities of our world. Therefore, we young people must be the educators. The young people must be willing to speak candidly about issues, and we mustn’t tremble in the face of the institutions that try to silence us. We’ve already accomplished this in our own community. We’ve been living examples of this mantra whether you all realize it or not.. Just within the last year, many of us have worked tirelessly to defend our ethics. Morgan, you were the strongest voice when the Parkland tragedy happened, and you personally wrote an address to honor those lives lost. Izzy, Juliana, Katherine and I fought to defend our history and relocate the Jefferson Davis memorial in the Kentucky State Capitol building. Many of you went on the March for Life to protect the lives of the unborn, and the list goes on. The most important thing to remember is that youth is not proportional to age, nor is it physical, rather it’s a mindset that we must carry with us into the world.The only way we can stop being impactful is if we let go of our youth and stop advocating for our core values. In my experience at Holy Cross I’ve learned that the best way to attain change is to be a visible example in our world, and we must plan to continue to utilize our voices in order to better the lives of all those we encounter.

 

Class of 2018, we are dynamic. We are intelligent. We have a voice, and we’re capable of using it in all communities. We’ve learned a multitude of things at Holy Cross, and for that we extend a sincere thanks to our teachers, parents, faculty, and peers. However, it doesn’t stop here. We must take what we’ve learned in this community and apply it to the world we are about to encounter. We are the young people, and we will continue​ to win.

 

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4486635/Christian-Bales-2018-Holy-Cross-High-School.pdf

That was the speech they wouldn't allow? Seriously?

It wasn't Holy Cross's decision.

 

That's what's being reported, so sure. How did the Diocese find out? It had to start with Holy Cross HS. Maybe it was a good cop/bad cop deal where the Diocese was totally cool with being the "bad guy". Either way, it's extremely hypocritical for them to pick and choose what is moral and what isn't.

That's what's being reported, so sure. How did the Diocese find out? It had to start with Holy Cross HS. Maybe it was a good cop/bad cop deal where the Diocese was totally cool with being the "bad guy". Either way, it's extremely hypocritical for them to pick and choose what is moral and what isn't.

 

Diocese controls the catholic high schools it's that simple.

Diocese controls the catholic high schools it's that simple.

 

There is the key word to all of this: Control

There is the key word to all of this: Control

 

I don't know what your saying? It's a private institution that is faith based that can make decisions differently than a public school. It is all about conformity. Hence why most have strict dress codes.

I don't know what your saying? It's a private institution that is faith based that can make decisions differently than a public school. It is all about conformity. Hence why most have strict dress codes.

 

Yes ... to both of us

After reading it now, I see why it was banned, just read the first few sentences.

After reading it now, I see why it was banned, just read the first few sentences.

 

These are the first few sentences...

 

“The young people will win” is a mantra that I’m sure many of you have heard if you’ve been attentive to the media recently. It’s a phrase adopted by the prolific Stoneman Douglas teenagers who are advocating for an agenda - our rights to feel secure as humans. We frequently see these individuals behind a computer screen,and therefore we see them as a separate body from us."

 

What am I missing? :idunno:

This speech at a rally or protest- ok. majority of it ok at graduation. Couple things,- not what needs to be said at graduation. Jmo