gametime Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Right.... §171. Conduct during playing During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there. Do you go around scolding everyone that doesn't fit this exact description at sporting events? I'll just assume you do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfTroy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 And please do a better job reading what I said. I have clearly stated that peaceful protest in the presence of the flag is not listed in the articles. It is not a violation of the code, unlike many things accepted as daily parts of life now days. If there is so much concern for disrespecting the flag, why is doing so such commonplace in this society??? I understand exactly what you've said and you are wrong. It says clearly what is to done during the playing of the national anthem. It's not multiple choice. They are not doing so. It IS a violation. I agree with you on the other things--you shouldn't wear the flag, you shouldn't be walking to your seat during the playing of the anthem, heck, the NFL shouldn't be displaying it in a flat manner on the field. Please do a better job of reading the flag code. The obvious reason that there is so much concern about disrespecting the flag is because they are doing so on display for all to see. Which brings me back to the original point, they are using the wrong form of protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfTroy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Do you go around scolding everyone that doesn't fit this exact description at sporting events? I'll just assume you do... Haha! That's actually pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I understand exactly what you've said and you are wrong. It says clearly what is to done during the playing of the national anthem. It's not multiple choice. They are not doing so. It IS a violation. I agree with you on the other things--you shouldn't wear the flag, you shouldn't be walking to your seat during the playing of the anthem, heck, the NFL shouldn't be displaying it in a flat manner on the field. Please do a better job of reading the flag code. The obvious reason that there is so much concern about disrespecting the flag is because they are doing so on display for all to see. Which brings me back to the original point, they are using the wrong form of protest. Non peaceful protest (ie burning the flag) is covered, correct? Where is the section on peaceful protest? I'll wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfTroy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Non peaceful protest (ie burning the flag) is covered, correct? Where is the section on peaceful protest? I'll wait... Flag burning is covered. There isn't a section on peaceful protests because what is expected is clearly spelled out. Maybe they need to add one. Until then, they are in violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Flag burning is covered. There isn't a section on peaceful protests because what is expected is clearly spelled out. Maybe they need to add one. Until then, they are in violation. We will agree to disagree. If they felt kneeling or sitting as a sign of protest was in disrespect, it would be in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfTroy Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 We will agree to disagree. If they felt kneeling or sitting as a sign of protest was in disrespect, it would be in there... Is flying double middle fingers during the anthem mentioned in there? If they felt that was disrespectful, it would be in there...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Is flying double middle fingers during the anthem mentioned in there? If they felt that was disrespectful, it would be in there...right? I wouldn't consider that a form of peaceful protest. Would you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Which brings me back to the original point, they are using the wrong form of protest. So, let's dig a bit deeper on this one. What's your "correct" form of protest??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Well just me. I am scaling back but it’s for many reasons. Getting older, better things to do, suffering Bengals fan. And I am one of the most pro military people you will ever speak with. I will just try to enjoy my college football Saturday’s. I think you pretty much wrote my post for me. Multitude of reasons and the kneelinf just adds to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So, let's dig a bit deeper on this one. What's your "correct" form of protest??? The NBA used creativity for Treyvon and Sterling. Why does the NFL have to attack the flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleluck55 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's funny, I'm reading people are going to boycott the NFL until the protests stop. I'm also reading people are going to boycott the NFL until Kap is hired. Pretty soon, there will be no one left to support the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's funny, I'm reading people are going to boycott the NFL until the protests stop. I'm also reading people are going to boycott the NFL until Kap is hired. Pretty soon, there will be no one left to support the NFL. This is America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickerMann Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Didn't this all really start in St. Louis when some Rams' players held up their hands during the anthem after the shooting of a criminal, who "witnesses" said was holding up his hands when shot; when he was actually trying steal & turn an officer's gun on the cop? What is the real complaint of these protesters, or do they even know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Robust reaction tonight when the Cowboys took a knee BEFORE the anthem. Almost makes it feel like the flag and the anthem aren't the real issue at hand. Probably just me though. Carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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