The Khsaa sites gets so many hits. People outside of that teams local area can see them as well.

 

I get that.

 

It still shouldn't be required.

Coaches/teams trade film. Very few would rely on any stats KHSAA provided to build a game plan.

 

Baseball doesn't have that rule about film, as I have never seen a baseball team film a game in all my years.

 

Your correct, coaches don't need them but I bet they peek at times but... do you think the kids just might? Do you think a Grandfather who lives a couple hundred miles away might like to see how that Grandson or Granddaughter of his is doing? Do you think maybe a player's older brother who is in the Military just might get a huge thrill about little brother stats back home, or a Dad or Mom out of town working might like to see how their child did in last night game? Even a former grad who has moved away might like to follow his old school to see how they are doing. Your correct, coaches don't need them but...........

This whole thread is borne out of a silly, 1950s-era way of thinking about football. The concept that a team can better hide what their tendencies are by not publishing stats is just flat-out ridiculous.

 

A decent opposing coach can figure it out real quick from the film, so it's not like publishing the stats is going to make that opposing coach have less work. That opposing coach will want to watch the film and see why and how Player A has rushed for 500 yards through 4 games. The fact that Player A has done so is mostly irrelevant to the opposing coach. He wants to know why and how.

 

And even if the stats weren't available readily, the opposing coach would still figure it out from film. So again, what's the benefit in being so secretive about "the battle plans" in terms of publishing stats?

That can be done in programs and local newspapers. KHSAA doesn't need to be a part of it.

 

You're not from Northern kentucky are you? Our local newspaper The Cincinnati Enquirer post so little HS game information that it's a joke and a lot of the local teams don't even send anything in anymore due to the lack of coverage. Why do you think so many NKy people post and read BGP's

 

Programs? Really? More time and money to print that information than to post it for free through the KHSAA.

Coaches/teams trade film. Very few would rely on any stats KHSAA provided to build a game plan.

 

That's it makes all the more sense to just put it out there.

Ok but why?

 

See my first post.

That can be done in programs and local newspapers. KHSAA doesn't need to be a part of it.

 

They should be and they are a part of it.

That's it makes all the more sense to just put it out there.

 

I have no problem at all with the information being out there, it just shouldn't be required.

http://www.hudl.com/v/1r90mc

 

Just so you know there are some teams that film their games.

I think it should be a requirement, as a coach be creative. I've heard of coaches who let the digital media class at their school do the stats every Monday. Great buy in and thinking outside the box. Very frustrating for those who take the time to do in-depth stats and submit them to see their opponent not do them or do them wrong. I.E

QB and WR don't get a TD scored on a passing TD, the receiver gets it. One school kept boasting they has the leading scorer in the state bc he was getting TDs scored on every passing TD.

There is a KHSAA rule that says schools have to report stats. If they don't there is a punishment off the top of my head i can't remember what is, but it is something significant. However, this year the rule is changing a bit now schools are required to submit stats to maxpreps. As a coach on a small staff it is difficult to find time to be able to report them, if your a school with a large staff its not big deal. Also, the reasoning behind it is for players recruitment. When college staffs search a kid to look for his stats they are more likely to start with his state association website to find his school, because that is the most trustworthy place for stats. Recruiting websites and hudl, for the most part let the players put in their stats, so they are more likely inflated. A college coach will trust the state association website is closest to actual numbers for a player

You assume that no other schools does what you do, for their team? Honestly, I have found that the majority of the teams in Football and Basketball at least, more times than not are pretty straightforward, if for no other reason, than to give their players some notoriety.

 

This being a football thread; baseball nor basketball crossed my mind. Then again; baseball rarely does as is unless family is playing, but I can understand/respect those that like watching and keeping up w/ it.

 

Different animal there.

No. Pain in the rear to many schools who do not have a stats staff so it ends up in the coach's lap along with 1000 other things.

 

Bigger reason:No value to the other KHSAA members.

 

THIS!! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!!! I write me own program and can be done with it after a game in about 30 minutes. I have spent hours trying to load and transfer stats from one source to another then to the KHSAA site. Hate it. Call me archaic, I don't care. This is primarily for the fans and not for the coaches. unnecessary.

They are nice to have, I guess. Required, I can't think of an absolute necessary reason why they should be. Mostly pumps some mommy's or daddy's ego. As a coach, I kept stats, but never shared individual stats with the team, only team stats.

 

Now I am sure some parents and players did keep their own individual stats and stats were placed in box scores, but they benefitted me I can't imagine anyone else. As a coach, I knew who on the opposite was doing well and their strengths and weaknesses.

 

I was not one to give individual awards at the end of the season, only team awards to the team for goals we accomplished during the year. I did not have one parent or player complaint doing this. They may have grumbled behind my back, but if they did, it never got to me.

I think stats (both individual and team) are important, both for recognition and for accountability purposes, and can be a valuable tool in the coaching process. As a coach, if you're not keeping stats (or having someone keep them for you), you're not using a valuable tool. While it's maybe nice for the public to be able to access stats, it's really just fluff. College recruiters may take a peek at stats, but ultimately they are going by what they see in person. Stats can be inflated and deflated by things like game plan, strength of schedule, game flow, etc.