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I thought you were a big Bonds supporter? Did I get that wrong?

 

I am. Just don't care what your opinion of him is, or what your opinion of him has to do with me...

Let's look at the Pro's and Con's of some in the discussion:

 

Babe Ruth:

 

T-4 all-time in Rs, 3rd all-time in HRs, 2nd all-time in RBI, 3rd all-time in BB, T-7 best AVG all-time, 2nd best OBP all time, best SLG & OPS of all time, plus his pitching numbers.

 

Cons: Only 1 MVP award, no one really has any idea as to the level of competition.

 

Willie Mays:

 

Pros: 7th all-time Rs, 11th all-time in Hs, 5th all-time in HRs, 10th all-time in RBI, 300+ SBs, 2 MVPs, ROY, 11 straight GGs

 

Cons: hung around too long, barely stayed over .300 career AVG, not an elite OBP (when look at GOAT).

Let's take a look. The Babe batted .342, 2,873 hits, 714 HR, 2,214 RBI, 2,062 BB.

Pitching. 94 wins 46 losses. 2.28 ERA. World Series 3-0, 0.87 ERA

Best LHP in the AL in the 1910's.

I am. Just don't care what your opinion of him is, or what your opinion of him has to do with me...

 

Okay, good. Just wanted to make sure I was accurate in what I said?

No offense to @All State Baseball for asking or anyone else here, but I've grown tired of people constantly talking about the GOAT of each sport.

Okay, good. Just wanted to make sure I was accurate in what I said?

 

In that I like Barry Bonds, yes that was an accurate statement.

Let's look at the Pro's and Con's of some in the discussion:

 

Babe Ruth:

 

T-4 all-time in Rs, 3rd all-time in HRs, 2nd all-time in RBI, 3rd all-time in BB, T-7 best AVG all-time, 2nd best OBP all time, best SLG & OPS of all time, plus his pitching numbers.

 

Cons: Only 1 MVP award, no one really has any idea as to the level of competition.

 

Willie Mays:

 

Pros: 7th all-time Rs, 11th all-time in Hs, 5th all-time in HRs, 10th all-time in RBI, 300+ SBs, 2 MVPs, ROY, 11 straight GGs

 

Cons: hung around too long, barely stayed over .300 career AVG, not an elite OBP (when look at GOAT).

 

Rules at the time only allowed a player to win it one time. First few years of his career there wasn't an award either.

I found a link explaining it...Ruth and the MVP Award Babe Ruth Central: Babe Ruth, Babe Ruth Photos, Babe Ruth Statistics, Babe Ruth Biography

For me it would be Willie Mays and a healthy Mickey Mantel would be close. I never saw Ted Williams , but probably be the best hitter of all times.

I don't even see this as much of a discussion. It is George Herman Ruth and it's not even close.

 

Please feel free to continue the discussion to decide who is second.

 

I agree. Nobody dominated in baseball history like Ruth. When he retired with 714 home runs the next guy on the list had something like 200 or 300. I am going off memory so I could be wrong but he was VERY FAR ahead of the next guy. He is the only player in history that could have easily gone to the HOF as a hitter or pitcher if the Yankees decided to keep him at pitcher.

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