I tried to address this with a thread a couple of weeks ago but my schedule has kept me from coming back to follow up on it.

 

So I will just go right to the conclusions.

 

This system is not watered down and here is why.

 

In all classes, there have been a very small number of teams with a legitimate shot at winning the title each year. In A, there are 4, in 2A there are 6-7, in 3A there are 4-5, and in 4A there is only 3.

 

Other teams have an outside shot, but these teams are the only ones who have a real chance. And that is not going to change, as a matter of fact it might even be worse because under this new system each class may become even more exclulsive. How? Because those 15-20 teams are going to be spread among 6 classes instead of 4, leaving less favorites in each class and making them even more elite. For instance in A, now there are going to be 2 big time favorites instead of 4.

 

Additionally, the playoff format will not change and you will still have to win 5 playoff games to take home the hardware. That is true under both systems regardless of how many teams are in the class. Less teams will be staying home, but it will not make the playoff paths easier by any noticable amount. The early rounds will still be against your district opponents (I assume) and the later rounds will be against the best in the class.

 

So the playoff games themselves will be a bit different makeup, but the semifinals will still be dominated by the same old faces and I'm having a hard time seeing how that translated into a watered down system.

 

Bottome line, it will not be eaiser to win a title under this system and the additional 2 titles will still be won by one of the 15-20 favorites.

It is going to allow a lot of mediocre and poor teams to make the playoffs. I don't want to see an 0-10, 1-9, or 2-8 team in a playoff game, but that is inevitable now.

A lot of mediocre teams make the playoffs now and they are gone after round 1 just like they will be under this system.

 

But what I am talking about is the championship. People act as if a title under the new system is less meaningful but I say no.

Yes. If Danville or NCC wins the 2A title now, but Mayfield or Beechwood has a really good 1A title team, people will always wonder what would have happened in the old system. It is totally watered down. To be a champion of 32 teams is less meaningful than being a champion of 50 teams.

 

OK, so if we are so worried about the poor 4A teams that never have a chance against the big 3, then why don't we set our system up like South Carolina used to do it (not sure if they still do-haven't lived there in a while)-... Just leave the first four classes as is, and take the biggest 16 schools in the state and call it the super sixteen. They have their own playoff system, and they get their game a weekend before everyone else (save them that big spotlight that they cherrish), because there are only 4 rounds. So, in a sense there are actually 5 classes. I don't really favor that scenario either, but it's better than 6 classes in a tiny state like KY. Get real. This is stupid. It will be like going 6-5 and winning the Motor City Bowl. Who cares?

Yes. If Danville or NCC wins the 2A title now, but Mayfield or Beechwood has a really good 1A title team, people will always wonder what would have happened in the old system. It is totally watered down. To be a champion of 32 teams is less meaningful than being a champion of 50 teams.

 

OK, so if we are so worried about the poor 4A teams that never have a chance against the big 3, then why don't we set our system up like South Carolina used to do it (not sure if they still do-haven't lived there in a while)-... Just leave the first four classes as is, and take the biggest 16 schools in the state and call it the super sixteen. They have their own playoff system, and they get their game a weekend before everyone else (save them that big spotlight that they cherrish), because there are only 4 rounds. So, in a sense there are actually 5 classes. I don't really favor that scenario either, but it's better than 6 classes in a tiny state like KY. Get real. This is stupid. It will be like going 6-5 and winning the Motor City Bowl. Who cares?

 

I think that would be a good idea. Team will be even more competitive.IMO

Yes. If Danville or NCC wins the 2A title now, but Mayfield or Beechwood has a really good 1A title team, people will always wonder what would have happened in the old system. It is totally watered down. To be a champion of 32 teams is less meaningful than being a champion of 50 teams.

 

OK, so if we are so worried about the poor 4A teams that never have a chance against the big 3, then why don't we set our system up like South Carolina used to do it (not sure if they still do-haven't lived there in a while)-... Just leave the first four classes as is, and take the biggest 16 schools in the state and call it the super sixteen. They have their own playoff system, and they get their game a weekend before everyone else (save them that big spotlight that they cherrish), because there are only 4 rounds. So, in a sense there are actually 5 classes. I don't really favor that scenario either, but it's better than 6 classes in a tiny state like KY. Get real. This is stupid. It will be like going 6-5 and winning the Motor City Bowl. Who cares?

Not in the eyes of who it matters most with and that is the kids on those championship teams.

 

This is HIGH SCHOOL athletics and it should be about what the kids think and not the adult fans.

 

The kids will think NO LESS of themselves for winning a state title in 6 classes. The front page stories in their local newspaper will be the same. The pep rallies will be the same. The parades afterwards will be the same. The patches for the jackets will be the same. ETC, ETC, ETC.

 

The only difference will be in some adult's mind that wants to believe that. But HS athletics is NOT about what goes on in that adult's mind.

Yes. If Danville or NCC wins the 2A title now, but Mayfield or Beechwood has a really good 1A title team, people will always wonder what would have happened in the old system. It is totally watered down. To be a champion of 32 teams is less meaningful than being a champion of 50 teams.

 

OK, so if we are so worried about the poor 4A teams that never have a chance against the big 3, then why don't we set our system up like South Carolina used to do it (not sure if they still do-haven't lived there in a while)-... Just leave the first four classes as is, and take the biggest 16 schools in the state and call it the super sixteen. They have their own playoff system, and they get their game a weekend before everyone else (save them that big spotlight that they cherrish), because there are only 4 rounds. So, in a sense there are actually 5 classes. I don't really favor that scenario either, but it's better than 6 classes in a tiny state like KY. Get real. This is stupid. It will be like going 6-5 and winning the Motor City Bowl. Who cares?

 

 

If Mayfield or Beechwood wonder if they could have beaten Danville or NCC, then they should schedule Danville and NCC as part of their out of district games. Problem solved.

Not in the eyes of who it matters most with and that is the kids on those championship teams.

 

This is HIGH SCHOOL athletics and it should be about what the kids think and not the adult fans.

 

But HS athletics is NOT about what goes on in that adult's mind.

 

 

I agree 100%, so I wonder who the kids were that brought this proposal to their AD's. My guess is none of them.

 

If we did what the kids want, I'm guessing we would still have 4 classes and that the possibility of a public/private split would go away. It's the AD's/coaches that have bruised egos that brought us 6 classes and the possibility of a split.

Maybe more schools will offer football. You just never know. I can see it from both sides, it really doesn't bother me.

This is HIGH SCHOOL athletics and it should be about what the kids think and not the adult fans.

 

The kids will think NO LESS of themselves for winning a state title in 6 classes. The front page stories in their local newspaper will be the same. The pep rallies will be the same. The parades afterwards will be the same. The patches for the jackets will be the same. ETC, ETC, ETC.

If that is the case then all high school sports should have 6 classifications, not just football. If it's about the kids...:irked:

If that is the case then all high school sports should have 6 classifications, not just football. If it's about the kids...:irked:

I would not be opposed to classes in the other sports besides football, cross country and track.

If that is the case then all high school sports should have 6 classifications, not just football. If it's about the kids...:irked:

 

 

I don't think many people in favor of 6 classes would disagree that classes should be imposed on the other sports.Those that do disagree would probably cite the fact that football, with its somewhat unique need for a lot of players, is different from the other sports. But regardless of that arguement, until the coaches of the other sports push for classes, the way the football coaches pushed for 6 classes, its not going to happen. If you think that classes should be pushed in the other sports, contact your high school coach in those sports and encourage him/her to push for classes.

 

Furthermore, I don't think the "unfairness" found in other sports (to the extent you think it is unfair), is sufficient justification for unfairness in football.

Has anybody addressed the "geography" issue. Years ago when the last alignment was produced, it was in effort to make more "geographical" sense. In other words toss out as many absurd long drives from within the district. Now, you see an alignment with teams traveling 3+ hours. Did they think about the fans? The schools? Family? With gas prices and cost of bus/drivers is it making sense?

 

Really? Johnson Central/Ashland/Bryan Station/Woodford Co.????

 

Harlan at Shelby County??? :scared:

If Mayfield or Beechwood wonder if they could have beaten Danville or NCC, then they should schedule Danville and NCC as part of their out of district games. Problem solved.

 

Good Call!!!!!:thumb:

If Mayfield or Beechwood wonder if they could have beaten Danville or NCC, then they should schedule Danville and NCC as part of their out of district games. Problem solved.

 

 

Not really. There is a difference between the playoffs and a regular season game. By the time you get to the playoffs, your team has more experience and most likely is at the peak of their ability. Even in their best years, Beechwood started slowly and ended seasons like a freight train.

 

Also, part of the New Cath/ Beechwood rivalry was beating a good team TWICE which is very hard to do. For really good teams like these, THAT is a sign of a true champion. Even losing to in regular season and then beating them in the playoffs is a true sign of achievement. THAT is what competition is about. That is what makes it so great for whichever team moves