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Hillary Clinton declares every job should be unionized?

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Actually said that, Every worker deserves a "Voice on the Job" which is code for "Union Representation", of course she was speaking to the Service Employees International Union at the time.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-campaign.html?_r=0

 

It's funny that is the video posted for a story about her refusing to Debate Bernie one last time before the California Primary.

 

Currently 11.1% of workers or 14.8 million workers are unionized. So would the country be better if every job was Unionized?

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Unions have their merits, however I don't necessarily think those merits outweigh the negatives. While I don't think there would be some drastic change in things if everyone was unionized, I'm not a fan.

Unions can be helpful or counterproductive. In my case the union is counterproductive when my technicians at my pharmacy cannot be paid anymore than what a cashier makes despite them being able to do much more than just register duties.

Unions have their merits, however I don't necessarily think those merits outweigh the negatives. While I don't think there would be some drastic change in things if everyone was unionized, I'm not a fan.

 

Agreed.

Actually said that, Every worker deserves a "Voice on the Job" which is code for "Union Representation", of course she was speaking to the Service Employees International Union at the time.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-campaign.html?_r=0

 

It's funny that is the video posted for a story about her refusing to Debate Bernie one last time before the California Primary.

 

Currently 11.1% of workers or 14.8 million workers are unionized. So would the country be better if every job was Unionized?

I must be missing something. I didn't see the "voice on the job" quote in the NYT article you linked to.

IMO Unions have forced jobs out of the country by demanding more money and benefits that would undercut a profit for a lot of companies. The goal of a business is to make a profit, not to make sure everyone is driving a BMW.

Just had a grievance filed in my workplace because the boss brought in pizza for all the workers. Paid for it out of his pocket. The grievance was because several of the workers felt they weren't given enough pizza to constitute a solid lunch. (Boss brought in enough pizza for two pieces of a large pizza each, plus chips...which were left over at the end.)

 

A grievance.....because two large pieces of pizza a piece weren't enough. A GRIEVANCE!

Just had a grievance filed in my workplace because the boss brought in pizza for all the workers. Paid for it out of his pocket. The grievance was because several of the workers felt they weren't given enough pizza to constitute a solid lunch. (Boss brought in enough pizza for two pieces of a large pizza each, plus chips...which were left over at the end.)

 

A grievance.....because two large pieces of pizza a piece weren't enough. A GRIEVANCE!

 

Was a grievance for a better wellness/mental health program because you have a bunch of overeating crazy people where you work?

Unions can be helpful or counterproductive. In my case the union is counterproductive when my technicians at my pharmacy cannot be paid anymore than what a cashier makes despite them being able to do much more than just register duties.

 

What a joke.

 

I think Unions need to be highly specialized. In other words, Unions need to represent the interest of Apples in Apple disputes and Oranges in Orange disputes and not try to cross-pollinate the two.

I worked in a union environment for 13 years. I was a steward, a chief steward and a V.P. After the company closed up shop I swore I would never work in a union environment every again whether I was in management or a worker. During my time there, I learned that I would never want to be a defense attorney after having to represent some of the morons i worked with.

I thought the discussion was to focus on Hillary's call to unionize every job in the country (even though I find zero evidence she ever advocated such a position). In any event, it's always entertaining to read (for the umpteenth time) everyone's favorite first-person accounts about what a bunch of losers union workers are.

Unions can be helpful or counterproductive. In my case the union is counterproductive when my technicians at my pharmacy cannot be paid anymore than what a cashier makes despite them being able to do much more than just register duties.

 

Are the PharmTechs union or the cashiers?

 

In Central Kentucky PharmTech salaries a near minimum wage. But assumed that was due to the fact that every Pharmacist student at the states only Pharmaceutical school had to their PharmTech certification.

I thought the discussion was to focus on Hillary's call to unionize every job in the country (even though I find zero evidence she ever advocated such a position). In any event, it's always entertaining to read (for the umpteenth time) everyone's favorite first-person accounts about what a bunch of losers union workers are.

 

I don't know about JD's original post link but she does say it here:

 

Hillary Clinton throws support behind fast-food workers in surprise call | MSNBC

 

DETROIT – Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton threw her support behind the movement for higher wages in dramatic fashion, making a surprise phone call Sunday to a convention of fast-food workers to declare: “I want to be your champion.”

 

“No one who works an honest job in America should have to live in poverty,” Clinton told the startled crowd of around 1,000 low-wage cooks and cashiers who had gathered at a conference center here to plot the campaign’s next steps. “Every worker in every state and every city deserves a fair wage and a real voice on the job.”

 

“Together, we will change the direction of this great country,” Clinton pledged.

 

The prohibitive favorite for the Democratic presidential nomination, Clinton had said previously that she supports raising the minimum wage. But her decision to communicate directly and personally with the labor-backed movement’s foot-soldiers—though she stopped short of endorsing their goal of $15 an hour—gives added momentum to an effort that already has amassed an impressive list of victories since launching less than two years ago.

 

It certainly appeared to encourage the workers, more accustomed to being ignored by people in positions of power. Some leaders of the movement had tears in their eyes as Clinton spoke.

 

“That a woman who’s running for president gives a s— that they matter enough, and their demand is significant enough for her to call and say, I want to be your champion—I think it’s a huge boost,” said Mary Kay Henry, the president of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), which organized the convention and has played a leading behind-the-scenes role in the movement.

 

For Clinton, getting behind the low-wage workers’ campaign can help solidify several key sections of her political base: working people, young people and minorities. It also puts her in sync with the broader push to combat inequality that’s currently providing much of the energy on the left. And it came just three days after she showed similar boldness in a speech in Texas on voting access, suggesting that on certain issues at least, her campaign sees the value of staking out clear progressive positions.

 

The audience for Clinton’s message had traveled from as far as Houston, Los Angeles, and Greensboro, North Carolina, giving up precious days off—some brought young kids with them—for the two-day confab. Many spoke of struggling to support families and pay bills, and of ever-shifting schedules that made planning daily life all but impossible.

 

Chris Ellis, a McDonald’s worker from Pittsburgh, wakes up at 4 a.m. each day to start his shift. After a recent 10-cent raise, he makes $7.70 an hour, which he uses to help support his 4-year-old son.

 

Ellis, 26, said when he gets his weekly paycheck, “It’s judgment day: whether I can pay my phone or whether I can pay my rent. There’s nights where I’m crying because I don’t have nothing.”

 

Attendees adopted a resolution Sunday to support New York workers as they urge a wage board convened by Gov. Andrew Cuomo to raise the state’s minimum wage to $15 an hour. The board held its first public hearing in Buffalo on Saturday.

 

Cuomo’s announcement of the wage board last month was just the latest in a string of successes for the movement. Los Angeles recently raised its minimum wage to $15 an hour, joining Seattle, San Francisco and SeaTac. Last week, St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay announced he’ll back a $15-an-hour proposal there. And Senate Democrats, with support from the White House, have introduced legislation to raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour—itself a big jump from the current level of $7.25, and far higher than almost anyone deemed realistic just two or three years ago.

 

Advocates for the fast-food and retail industries say hiking the minimum wage that high would lead employers to cut back on entry-level jobs en masse, hurting the very people it’s trying to help. But a range of economic studies on the question generally don’t support that prediction.

 

As the 2016 campaign heats up, Henry of S.E.I.U. said the movement is well-positioned to keep the issue at the forefront of conversation.

 

“Because we have made clear that these are not jobs done by high school students with pocket change any longer, we’re going to insist that this be central to the presidential campaign,” she said.

 

Still, Clinton’s bid to cozy up to the movement for higher wages may not be without challenges. Throughout Sunday, the crowd in the cavernous hall often seemed disengaged. But Bert Johnson, a Michigan state senator, drew raucous cheers with a message that contrasted sharply with Clinton’s.

 

“Democrats aren’t your friends,” Johnson declared. “Republicans aren’t your friends, Independents aren’t your friends. Your only friends are the people who are willing to walk off the job with you.”

I thought the discussion was to focus on Hillary's call to unionize every job in the country (even though I find zero evidence she ever advocated such a position). In any event, it's always entertaining to read (for the umpteenth time) everyone's favorite first-person accounts about what a bunch of losers union workers are.

 

Ultimately that is the issue, the issue is the Union is its own worst enemy because sometimes the slugs need to lose their job.

 

On the other side of things I worked with a lot of highly skilled men and women that had only had a Union in name with little or no powers associated with a real Union and in our case the company walked all over us whenever they felt like it.

I thought the discussion was to focus on Hillary's call to unionize every job in the country (even though I find zero evidence she ever advocated such a position). In any event, it's always entertaining to read (for the umpteenth time) everyone's favorite first-person accounts about what a bunch of losers union workers are.

 

Although I did digress, I did not say anything about anyone at all being a loser. Those where are your words, not mine.

 

I have no idea what Hillary did or did not say. My intent was to point out, via anecdotal evidence, that union workers are not always easy to deal with, nor do I feel that they are always the answer. And yes, for the record, I have had far more bad dealings with unions and union workers than I have had good.

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