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Mr. Basketball... Who you got?

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And while Carson is playing Division I basketball, your player is going to Bellarmine. So what?

 

Couldn't let this one go. I don't even know whio this other player is, but to demean the importance of a kid earning a scholarship worth $196,000 over 4 years doesn't come across too well. For perspective, an NKU scholarship is worth about $73,000. And that is relevant for the 99.9999% of the student athletes that won't play in the NBA.

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After watching this now I'll vote for Williams. Wow

WOW is right!!!! Everyone should go vote for this kid. He's the only Kentucky kid in the event, and it looks like he'll make it to the Final 4 round today. It would be pretty cool to see a KY kid on TV in a dunk contest.

Love to see Williams and Goodin play one on one. Williams couldn't guard Goodin. Gotta believe both of them are worthy Mr. Basketballs but the kid going to Xavier is going to a Big East school for a reason. Interesting discussion.

If you have seen him play, you should know, Xavier did not recruit him because he can shoot ( very mediocre 45% from floor with him predominantly being a paint scorer, very weak range with 22% from 3's, and a mediocre 70% FT shooter). He is a great athlete that they hope can be taught to shoot, if not, his minutes will dwindle over time. Runner-up in my book to Carson Williams.

Love to see Williams and Goodin play one on one. Williams couldn't guard Goodin. Gotta believe both of them are worthy Mr. Basketballs but the kid going to Xavier is going to a Big East school for a reason. Interesting discussion.

 

Carson had an offer from a Power 5 conference team, and also had serious interest from Big East schools himself. However, he did not show the return interest that would generate further development to an offer stage. My point is that just because he is going to NKU and Goodin is going to Xavier isn't a reason to suggest one has more college potential than the other. They both were recruited by higher level schools than most kids out of KY. Both would make great Mr. Basketballs and have the credentials that you could not argue against them winning.

It frosts me to hear pontifications about D1 athletes all being so much better than all D2, when most of us know that just isn't the case. Chris Lofton had no D1 offers until either May or June his senior year. He could have gone D2, but chose to holdback committing. We all know how that worked out. Weyer committed to Bellarmine early because it is a great Jesuit College with a wonderful basketball program. Recent national champs and regularly top 10 ratings and final four participants.

 

Rick Pitino, Mick Cronin, and Tom Crean respect Bellarmine so strongly that they seek them out annually as a preseason opponent. Wouldn't happen if they were at a non-competitive level. These guys wanted to be pushed to get ready, and Bellarmine provides that. Check it out and you will understand your judgement errors.

 

Bellarmine could not fill the starting spots at most top level D1 programs, but they have more than a handful of players that could fill spots of 6-13. I am not sure NKU can make that claim, in fact, I have watched Bellarmine play over 10 times this year and NKU three times. IMO Most basketball coaches that have knowlege on both would concur that Bellarmine would have a four game winning streak on NKU if they played annually 2013-2016.

It frosts me to hear pontifications about D1 athletes all being so much better than all D2, when most of us know that just isn't the case. Chris Lofton had no D1 offers until either May or June his senior year. He could have gone D2, but chose to holdback committing. We all know how that worked out. Weyer committed to Bellarmine early because it is a great Jesuit College with a wonderful basketball program. Recent national champs and regularly top 10 ratings and final four participants.

 

Rick Pitino, Mick Cronin, and Tom Crean respect Bellarmine so strongly that they seek them out annually as a preseason opponent. Wouldn't happen if they were at a non-competitive level. These guys wanted to be pushed to get ready, and Bellarmine provides that. Check it out and you will understand your judgement errors.

 

Bellarmine could not fill the starting spots at most top level D1 programs, but they have more than a handful of players that could fill spots of 6-13. I am not sure NKU can make that claim, in fact, I have watched Bellarmine play over 10 times this year and NKU three times. IMO Most basketball coaches that have knowlege on both would concur that Bellarmine would have a four game winning streak on NKU if they played annually 2013-2016.

 

Laughable. NKU while in Division II owned Bellarmine if you bother looking at the al-time series record. I posted it to you yesterday but the technical problems erased it. My buddies who talk with the NKU coaches also said Pitino and Cronin play Bellarmine in exhibitions because of their relationship with Bellarmine's coach, not because it is competitive. The Bellarmine coach used to be an assistant at U of L, but he can not get a Division I head coaching job even though he has repeatedly tried.

 

Bellarmine from what I saw has lost to the likes of Midwestern State (!?), Drury (!?), Findlay, Parkside (!?), and you are saying they are going to beat Division I schools? As a former assistant coach in Division I, it sounds to me as if you have an axe to grind with NKU. I have no dog in the fight, but there is a huge difference in Division I athletes and those who sign out of high school with D-2. As I said yesterday, NAIA rosters have more athletes than Division II rosters in may cases. Many of the players we recruited did not qualify academically for NCAA play and had to go to the NAIA, an they were much better than the kids who signed with D-2. Now a transfer from D-1 who goes to D-2, yes, they might make a difference in talent levels. But not straight from high school.

It frosts me to hear pontifications about D1 athletes all being so much better than all D2, when most of us know that just isn't the case. Chris Lofton had no D1 offers until either May or June his senior year. He could have gone D2, but chose to holdback committing. We all know how that worked out. Weyer committed to Bellarmine early because it is a great Jesuit College with a wonderful basketball program. Recent national champs and regularly top 10 ratings and final four participants.

 

Weyer committed to NKU last year, but the new coaching staff pulled his scholarship offer this summer because his skill set does not translate into a rotation player in Division I. You might check your facts.

Weyer committed to NKU last year, but the new coaching staff pulled his scholarship offer this summer because his skill set does not translate into a rotation player in Division I. You might check your facts.

 

No, you might check your facts. Whoever told you Weyer committed to NKU last year is as delusional as you are. He only committed to one school and that is Bellarmine.

 

Only thing you have right about Weyer is that he did get an offer from the previous NKU staff. Nothing was ever rescinded - as the new staff came on it was assumed the offer was no longer on the table unless they re-offered.

No, you might check your facts. Whoever told you Weyer committed to NKU last year is as delusional as you are. He only committed to one school and that is Bellarmine.

 

You are totally wrong. He accepted the offer from the former coaching staff, there is even a thread in this forum from last spring about it. The new staff rescinded said offer. That comes from their new coaches. I think they know more than you and your emotional rants/attachments.

You are totally wrong. He accepted the offer from the former coaching staff, there is even a thread in this forum from last spring about it. The new staff rescinded said offer. That comes from their new coaches. I think they know more than you and your emotional rants/attachments.

 

OK, being that I am his parent and with him every step of this process the emotional attachment is great but your information is inaccurate. I am not going to argue with you about what you know nothing about...but I will not let you lie about my son. Whoever is giving you the information is wrong...plain and simple.

OK, being that I am his parent and with him every step of this process the emotional attachment is great but your information is inaccurate. I am not going to argue with you about what you know nothing about...but I will not let you lie about my son

 

More reason it is emotional ranting. Tell that to the NKU coaching staff, and have them take down the thread from last March on this site if that is the case. I could care less. I was responding to someone else in the first place.

More reason it is emotional ranting. Tell that to the NKU coaching staff, and have them take down the thread from last March on this site if that is the case. I could care less. I was responding to someone else in the first place.

 

where's this thread you speak of...only one I know of says he was offered! I will gladly tell that to any of the NKU coaches(but they already know) but most D1 current and previous coaches don't waste their time on these silly threads...except maybe you

OK, being that I am his parent and with him every step of this process the emotional attachment is great but your information is inaccurate. I am not going to argue with you about what you know nothing about...but I will not let you lie about my son

 

The indisputable fact is this: He is going to play at Division II, not Division I. Congratulations. That was the point. If you have issues with what their own coaches say, including the head coach who I am told is a grad of the same high school as this player, tell them about it. I saw him play. I coached at a mid-major Division I school years ago. I said he is a fine high school player, but his skill set is not suited for success in Division I. Sorry if you can not handle an objective opinion.

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