Midwestern State and Findlay have a combined record of 39-12, that's very good wherever you're at. NKU is 9-18. DII schools beat D1 schools every year.

 

For example Malone University (a DII school) beat Cleveland State (a D1 school that beat NKU at home by 5) by 16 on the road.

 

Bellarmine, KWC, Pikeville, Georgetown, etc. are all very good in-state programs that don't play division I that would play with or beat some division I schools. If you don't want to accept that that's fine.

 

I pulled up NKU's schedule and they played IU Kokomo this season and beat them 88-44. That's what happens when Division I schools normally play these small colleges. I went back and looked at their schedule from last year and see NKU beat UC Clermont 107-53. That tells me they would also blow out most of these other smaller non-Division I foes you mention. It's a different level that Division I schools play at.

No, the NKU coaches said the previous staff offered Weyer. The new hires decided Weyer was better off playing at a smaller level because of his size and limitations going up against Division I small forwards. He has neither the outside shot nor athletic ability to keep up in Division I. That is why they pulled back the offer. That comes from NKU coaches, and I believe they have a better grasp on it than you. Those are facts, unlike your emotional rant.

 

Wow, no athletic ability? 48% from 3, 52.1% from field, 81% free throw, 3 All A state championships, 4 All A Regions, 100 plus wins as varsity player and he's an amazing kid, 4.4 weighted GPA, class president the list goes on...according to you poor kids lucky to be on a team...If you're so confident in your candidate why bash the other kids? You've made it quite clear who YOU THINK should win. Carson is a great kid and player but so are these other kids.

Please do find me a 125-45 blowout between a top-25 DII team and a D1 team then...

 

I don't even know what a top-25 DII team would mean. Does that mean you are the 400th best basketball team in America by the RPI? lol.

Wow, no athletic ability? 48% from 3, 52.1% from field, 81% free throw, 3 All A state championships, 4 All A Regions, 100 plus wins as varsity player and he's an amazing kid, 4.4 weighted GPA, class president the list goes on...according to you poor kids lucky to be on a team...If you're so confident in your candidate why bash the other kids? You've made it quite clear who YOU THINK should win. Carson is a great kid and player but so are these other kids.

 

No one was bashing anyone. We were having a conversation as to why he is at Bellarmine. Try re-reading the thread.

I pulled up NKU's schedule and they played IU Kokomo this season and beat them 88-44. That's what happens when Division I schools normally play these small colleges. I went back and looked at their schedule from last year and see NKU beat UC Clermont 107-53. That tells me they would also blow out most of these other smaller non-Division I foes you mention. It's a different level that Division I schools play at.

 

Neither of those teams are Top 25 DII teams. IU-Kokomo is an NAIA DII team and UC-Clermont plays in the USCAA DII. We're talking about NCAA DII Top 25 teams, that's much different.

I pulled up NKU's schedule and they played IU Kokomo this season and beat them 88-44. That's what happens when Division I schools normally play these small colleges. I went back and looked at their schedule from last year and see NKU beat UC Clermont 107-53. That tells me they would also blow out most of these other smaller non-Division I foes you mention. It's a different level that Division I schools play at.

 

The teams you mention are NAIA schools not D2. You said you Coach at a D1 school. Wow

Neither of those teams are Top 25 DII teams. IU-Kokomo is an NAIA DII team and UC-Clermont plays in the USCAA DII. We're talking about NCAA DII Top 25 teams, that's much different.

 

If it's not Division I basketball, it's small-college basketball. If you want to apply terms to which, that is fine. I know there are NAIA teams that are much better than Division II teams in terms of talent. I don't follow small-college basketball, but I do realize it is totally different in Division I.

The teams you mention are NAIA schools not D2. You said you Coach at a D1 school. Wow

 

Yes, years ago. And I never heard of most of these teams at the time.

The teams you mention are NAIA schools not D2. You said you Coach at a D1 school. Wow

 

Just to end this pointless discussion about the Bellarmines of the world, Carson Williams will be Mr. Basketball, mark it down!

No one was bashing anyone. We were having a conversation as to why he is at Bellarmine. Try re-reading the thread.

 

Saying a kid who s 9th region player of the year has no athletic ability is bashing - bashing quite a few kids in that case. You've admitted you don't know anything about Bellarmine and NKU so how can you comment on how good they are or aren't?

Saying a kid who s 9th region player of the year has no athletic ability is bashing - bashing quite a few kids in that case. You've admitted you don't know anything about Bellarmine and NKU so how can you comment on how good they are or aren't?

 

I saw Weyer play and said he is a fine player, just not Division I. That is not bashing. IT IS A FACT! He is going to Bellarmine! I know nothing about either Bellarmine or NKU, just that one is small-college program, and the other competes at the Division I level. Please try reading before you post an emotional rant.

If it's not Division I basketball, it's small-college basketball. If you want to apply terms to which, that is fine. I know there are NAIA teams that are much better than Division II teams in terms of talent. I don't follow small-college basketball, but I do realize it is totally different in Division I.

 

That's just not accurate at all.

That's just not accurate at all.

 

OK, so small-college basketball is on the same level as Division I in your view. I stand corrected. lol.

But if Bellarmine is losing to the likes of Midwestern State and Findlay, they have a LONG way to go before they start talking about beating Division I schools on a regular basis. Enjoy Division II for what it is worth. It's a chance for young men to go to college, play basketball, have fun. But it's a LONG way from Division I.

And don't forget Northern also has a looooong way to go before they start talking about beating Division 1 schools on a regular basis. Good horizon with new Recruits, but until current key players get in playing shape, NKU will continue to be less than mediocre.

And don't forget Northern also has a looooong way to go before they start talking about beating Division 1 schools on a regular basis. Good horizon with new Recruits, but until current key players get in playing shape, NKU will continue to be less than mediocre.

 

I agree with you. But NKU is playing Division I basketball, something Bellarmine is not. That was my point.

 

I do not know anything about the players being out of shape as you referenced, but my buddies who speak with their coaches say they expect an entirely new starting five next season. That bodes well for NKU as it says they are bringing in immediate impact players. I will disagree with you on one point after looking at NKU's schedule this season, they won road games at Detroit and Oakland, and played Xavier to a closer than I would expect score. It appears NKU is well coached, and once he gets his own players in, they will be very competitive in a league which only has one name team (Valpo) to go against. Detroit hasn't been a big factor nationally since Dick Vitale was head coach in the 1970s. Oakland, Wright State, the Wisconsin schools are very beatable for NKU once Carson Williams, Mason Faulkner and other good recruits arrive.