Your probably right, Apple shouldn't be forced to crack their own encryption though. To be honest, I imagine the NSA or some other government entity has a team assembled and are working on it as I type this.

 

Again, if we take Snowden at his word and the NSA at their word they are not only working on it, it is their mission statement.

I'm not sure that I believe that Apple doesn't already have a way to get into the phone. But that is just an opinion. Perhaps the FBI should take the phone to Anonymous, they seem pretty good and hacking into things.

 

I don't really have a big issue with this guys right to privacy, search and seizure issues, etc. I think that once you commit an act of terrorism or treason against your country that you forfeit most of your rights. It's not like there is any chance this guy is innocent of the crimes.

I'm just shocked the FBI can't hack into themselves.

I'm just shocked the FBI can't hack into themselves.

 

The fact that they cannot is Apple's best selling point. The FBI has had that phone for months and cannot hack into it...pretty solid evidence that my I-phone cannot be hacked if they don't have my password.

I understand that is always your default position and I appreciate that. But there are some circumstances where one loses the expectations of certain rights and freedoms. This is a case where a warrant for the information has been issued by a judge in good standing.

 

On Apples side of this, I'm not sure I like the government forcing a company to "invent" something that currently doesn't exsist.

 

If I was Apple I would figure out how to unlock this phone, then unlock it and remove the new program from the phone and hand an unlocked phone over to the FBI. If Apples biggest concern that this new backdoor could get leaked in some way, then they would be the ones holding onto the new tech, if it leaked it would be on them.

Assuming Apple could do this as easily as you say (HUGE ASSUMPTION BTW), why would they want the responsibility of holding the new tech themselves? Some rogue employee gone bad (leaker) could take down the whole company.

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Assuming Apple could do this as easily as you say (HUGE ASSUMPTION BTW), why would they want the responsibility of holding the new tech themselves? Some rogue employee gone bad (leaker) could take down the whole company.

I think they would trust themselves more than they would trust FBI or others with proprietary programs.

So this is what a liberal fight looks like, who's offended who more?

I'm actually disappointed that the NSA can't already get into it.

 

From reading about this today, I guess the problem is that if they try the password X amount of times and get it wrong, the program will erase everything on the phone. What they are asking Apple to do is to disable that function and then they'll get into the phone on their own without Apple.

I'm not sure that I believe that Apple doesn't already have a way to get into the phone. But that is just an opinion. Perhaps the FBI should take the phone to Anonymous' date=' they seem pretty good and hacking into things. I don't really have a big issue with this guys right to privacy, search and seizure issues, etc. I think that once you commit an act of terrorism or treason against your country that you forfeit most of your rights. It's not like there is any chance this guy is innocent of the crimes.[/quote']

 

They can and have.

 

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/17/apple-unlocked-iphones-for-the-feds-70-times-before.html

They can and have.

 

 

Apple Unlocked iPhones for the Feds 70 Times Before - The Daily Beast

 

Thanks for the link. I was pretty sure that it was bull that they couldn't hack into a phone they designed.

They can and have.

 

 

Apple Unlocked iPhones for the Feds 70 Times Before - The Daily Beast

 

In my opinion it needs to be 71.

 

I am a supporter of the Patriot Act. It has help keep this country safe for 15 years now.

 

This is one phone. I don't believe the first thing the Apple CEO claimed in his letter. The FBI isn't asking for the program to be given to them, they are asking Apple to unlock the phone and then give it to them.

 

Why would anyone have an issue with that?

Google supports Apples decision.

So this is what a liberal fight looks like, who's offended who more?

 

No this is a discussion about due process, the right to privacy, the needs of law enforcement in the age of global terrorism enabled by high technology, the limits of government power and the age-old struggle between big business and big government to decide who's really in control.

 

You're welcome to add to it if you like.

Speculation from the article that maybe Apple is concerned with the growing use of this by the Feds and could be ashamed of their own involvement.

 

It's a rock and a hard place with no solid answer.

No this is a discussion about due process, the right to privacy, the needs of law enforcement in the age of global terrorism enabled by high technology, the limits of government power and the age-old struggle between big business and big government to decide who's really in control.

 

You're welcome to add to it if you like.

 

I like this!