Seems to confirm many suspicions this was about getting Apple to create a backdoor (or to create the legal ability to demand it) than it was about this one phone. If they had the ability to hack it all along - and many tech experts have been saying this since the start - then what other reason did they have to challenge Apple over it?

 

Can't find a link, but on TV today they were saying that it was maybe a third party that came up with this hack.

 

I don't think they had a way into the phone, if so then no reason for an Apple Backdoor. I really think they were stumped on how to get into it, until this break through.

Seems to confirm many suspicions this was about getting Apple to create a backdoor (or to create the legal ability to demand it) than it was about this one phone. If they had the ability to hack it all along - and many tech experts have been saying this since the start - then what other reason did they have to challenge Apple over it?

 

Who knows, but it can't be good for individual liberty.

 

And on a side note, anyone else notice we just got another Apple operating system update in the last couple of days. :eek:

I am hearing different theories on this. One is that Apple secretly helped the FBI but had an agreement with the FBI that it would be a secret...not buying that one. The other is that the FBI knew it would lose in court so is just making up that they have hacked into the phone to save face and not get embarrassed in court. That actual seems more plausible to me.

I am hearing different theories on this. One is that Apple secretly helped the FBI but had an agreement with the FBI that it would be a secret...not buying that one. The other is that the FBI knew it would lose in court so is just making up that they have hacked into the phone to save face and not get embarrassed in court. That actual seems more plausible to me.

 

Or, the FBI was already inside the phone, knew there was some juicy details on the phone, and court the fight was a planned attack on privacy because now the FBI can go back and brag about all the info they found on the phone and if Apple would only help them out we would save more American lives.

Glad they got into it. Could give two craps if they use the same methods to hack my phone too. I don't take enough selfies to really care that much.....

I'd be interested to know whether there was actually anything on the phone that they didn't already know about.

And the gov't refuses to cooperate with Apple on how they got the information. Priceless.

And the gov't refuses to cooperate with Apple on how they got the information. Priceless.

 

Do you have a link to that.

 

And if true this should seal the FBI's fate next time they come knocking in court.

In response to this fiasco, a bipartisan bill is being pushed in Congress by Diane Feinstein and Richard Burr demands tech companies to be able to provide all data to the government when requested and thus, according to a techy quoted in this article, "basically outlaws end-to-end encryption." Elsewhere, I've seen privacy advocate Julian Sanchez describe the bill thusly: "Burr-Feinstein may be the most insane thing I’ve ever seen seriously offered as a piece of legislation. It is ‘do magic’ in legalese.”

 

The Senate’s Draft Encryption Bill Is ‘Ludicrous, Dangerous, Technically Illiterate’ | WIRED

 

You can read the most recent draft here.

 

Burr Encryption Bill - Discussion Draft

I don't understand the technology, admittedly.

 

When Apple builds encryption into their phones, do they also create a single key?

 

Or is it built without a key? So there is literally no known way to break in.

 

I'm guessing without a key given the whole argument with the FBI?

I don't understand the technology, admittedly.

 

When Apple builds encryption into their phones, do they also create a single key?

 

Or is it built without a key? So there is literally no known way to break in.

 

I'm guessing without a key given the whole argument with the FBI?

 

60 Minutes just did a story on how someone like our US Government can collect every ounce of everything on anyone's phone including text messages and recording all calls.

 

In short, it takes a lot of code to make everything work and "every" code has security flaws that can be exploited.

If you do anything online the government already has the ability to profile you and hack any of your online accounts without much trouble.

 

There problem now is that they collect so much that brute decryption is taking too long. They just want the master skeleton key. Not unlike 'TSA approved' luggage locks.

Apple paid about $1.3M to hackers to get into this phone.

Apple paid about $1.3M to hackers to get into this phone.

 

I haven't kept up. So Apple paid a hacker to help the FBI so that the FBI would get off Apple's back?

I haven't kept up. So Apple paid a hacker to help the FBI so that the FBI would get off Apple's back?

 

Darn it. FBI paid a hacker $1.3M.