By that same token, why wouldn't a terrorist want to sneak into a group of refugees and get a free pass into America, free money, a free place to stay, and all the time in the world to plan an attack on those you hate most?

 

I don't feel sorry for any terrorist. I feel sorry for the people they might kill if they do get here.

 

I think it has more to do with where they originate from. They are coming from a region that has been a hotbed for terrorism and extremist ideology that has traditionally opposed the western style of life. The opportunity for an extremist to pose as a refugee in order to gain access to the United States, or the West in general, is much more realistic than a refugee from another region in the world.

 

I agree it is a perfect scenario for a terrorist to sneak into the country. By the same token I don't feel comfortable punishing those that aren't terrorists simply because they come from the same country.

 

 

It would be like Japan not allowing me into their country because I have on all blue and they say I am in a gang.

That's about 60 murders a year in Louisville based on 1 every six days.

 

So as long as the terrorists keep their kill totals to 60 or less a year, were good with that.

 

Makes sense when you break down by the numbers.

2 Iraqi refugees indicted on terrorism charges in Kentucky | The Courier-Journal | courier-journal.com

 

Two Iraqi refugees living in Bowling Green, Ky., have been arrested and charged with violating federal terrorism laws — allegedly plotting to send missiles and other weapons to insurgents to kill American soldiers abroad.

 

Waad Ramadan Alwan, 30, and Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 23, are accused of conspiring to send Stinger missiles, cash, sniper rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers from the United States to al Qaeda and other jihadists in Iraq.

 

They allegedly picked up the weapons from a storage facility in Bowling Green and delivered it to a tractor trailer in Franklin, Ky., thinking it all would be sent to insurgents, according to criminal complaints filed in U.S. District Court.

 

In fact, the warehouse was rented by the FBI, which also owned the truck, and the operation was part of an elaborate sting set up by a confidential informant. The weapons were all disarmed never had any chance of being shipped abroad, according to court records.

 

Alwan also is charged with conspiring to kill U.S soldiers with improvised explosive devices in Iraq before he came to the United States.

 

The defendants were charged in a 23-count indictment unsealed Tuesday for which they could be sentenced to life in prison.

 

Alwan is also charged with conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction against U.S. nationals abroad; distributing information on the manufacture and use of IEDs; attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to al-Qaeda in Iraq, as well as conspiracy to transfer, possess and export Stinger missiles.

 

Hammadi is charged with attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to al-Qaeda in Iraq, as well as to transfer, possess and export Stinger missiles.

 

Both men made their initial appearance Tuesday in federal court in Louisville, where they both pleaded not guilty and were ordered held pending a detention hearing June 8 in Bowling Green.

 

Neither is charged with plotting attacks within the United States.

 

Both entered the United States after applying for and receiving refugee status, according to criminal complaints. Under the law, they will be deported if they are convicted.

 

 

Also from the article:

 

 

“This case demonstrates specific gaps that were present in the screening process that was in place in the beginning of the (Obama) administration,” he said. “Once the administration became aware of these gaps, it took immediate steps to fill them. Today our vetting process considers a far broader range of information than it did in past years.”

He said refugee applicants worldwide are now subjected to “expanded rigorous background vetting, including biographic and biometric checks.”

He said the latest enhancement to the refugee security check regime involves a new "pre-departure" check shortly before refugees are scheduled to travel to the United States.

It is intended to identify whether any new derogatory information exists since the initial checks were conducted. He said these pre-departure checks went into effect late last year.

That's about 60 murders a year in Louisville based on 1 every six days.

 

So as long as the terrorists keep their kill totals to 60 or less a year, were good with that.

 

Makes sense when you break down by the numbers.

 

I see refugees. You see terrorists. When the refugees kill Americans then your post will be correct. Until then Louisville folks will be killing more Louisville folks than terrorists and apparently that is fine since they aren't terrorists.

 

That also makes sense when you break it down by the numbers.

I swear sometimes PP92 doesnt even believe what he himself is posting . Just wants to be a contrarian .

 

I agree it is a perfect scenario for a terrorist to sneak into the country. By the same token I don't feel comfortable punishing those that aren't terrorists simply because they come from the same country.

 

It would be like Japan not allowing me into their country because I have on all blue and they say I am in a gang.

 

Not letting them in isn't punishment.

 

And your comparison is weak imo. Japan not letting you in for those reasons would be stupid.

 

There are most definitely people from Syria that want to kill Americans.

 

Are there documented incidents of people wearing blue wanting to kill all Japanese?

Not letting them in isn't punishment.

 

And your comparison is weak imo. Japan not letting you in for those reasons would be stupid.

 

There are most definitely people from Syria that want to kill Americans.

 

Are there documented incidents of people wearing blue wanting to kill all Japanese?

 

Not letting refugees from Syria into America because some Syrians want to kill Americans is a punishment to those who don't want to kill Americans and just want a peaceful and safe place to raise their family.

 

I think America not letting in refugees who have been properly vetted is stupid.

 

Both entered the United States after applying for and receiving refugee status, according to criminal complaints. Under the law, they will be deported if they are convicted.

 

Doesn't deporting them throw them right back into the mix potentially?

Doesn't deporting them throw them right back into the mix potentially?

 

Good question. We'd be better served keeping them here in jail for the rest of their lives. Little water boarding. Shock therapy. Taser calibrations.

 

Not letting refugees from Syria into America because some Syrians want to kill Americans is a punishment to those who don't want to kill Americans and just want a peaceful and safe place to raise their family.

 

I think America not letting in refugees who have been properly vetted is stupid.

 

Why do we have to let them in? We don't. Why not let everyone in? There are people all over the world suffering right now...should we take them all in?

 

Who said they were properly vetted? I don't trust this administration to do that.

 

It's not a punishment because they aren't Americans. It would be a punishment imo, if they had a right to live here.

 

I don't associate the bottom picture with Muslims. I associate the bottom picture with terrorists.

I completely understand the thought that we should try to help those that are truly in need of help. Something about this whole thing makes me incredibly uneasy though. :idunno:

I completely understand the thought that we should try to help those that are truly in need of help. Something about this whole thing makes me incredibly uneasy though. :idunno:

 

Understandable. Paris makes it that way. Still too fresh.

Why do we have to let them in? We don't. Why not let everyone in? There are people all over the world suffering right now...should we take them all in?

 

Who said they were properly vetted? I don't trust this administration to do that.

 

It's not a punishment because they aren't Americans. It would be a punishment imo, if they had a right to live here.

 

Letting 4 families in hardly seems like letting them all in to me.