September 16, 201511 yr I'd be curious to hear the details of the officers capturing/killing this guy. There are times where I don't care if a line has to be crossed. This would have been one of those times. Just write it up so everyone is protected. I'm sure they were able to articulate the threat and the reasoning for the use of deadly force. KSP doesn't (unless they got them recently) have body cameras as far as I know, wondering if it was recorded by officer from another department.
September 16, 201511 yr Shoulder/upper chest area Assuming the guy had a pistol with an unknown caliber, probably 9 or .40 a Level II is designed to stop pistol calibers but we are seeing them fail a lot now. Nothing is guaranteed and I'm sure they have a disclaimer stating that.
September 16, 201511 yr The guy (murderer) did post on snap chat while on the run. EDDYVILLE, Ky.: Kentucky trooper's killer posted Snapchat video expressing regret | Nation | Kentucky.com
September 16, 201511 yr I'm sure they were able to articulate the threat and the reasoning for the use of deadly force. KSP doesn't (unless they got them recently) have body cameras as far as I know, wondering if it was recorded by officer from another department. If KSP SRT team was handling the situation would they allow anyone else in there?
September 16, 201511 yr Assuming the guy had a pistol with an unknown caliber, probably 9 or .40 a Level II is designed to stop pistol calibers but we are seeing them fail a lot now. Nothing is guaranteed and I'm sure they have a disclaimer stating that. If he got hit above the best it wouldn't matter though.
September 16, 201511 yr If he got hit above the best it wouldn't matter though. that would be the shoulder area, it's rare but possible to die from that.
September 16, 201511 yr If KSP SRT team was handling the situation would they allow anyone else in there?Depends on if it was still an ongoing manhunt. If he hadn't been found yet there were probably officers from several agencies there still involved in the manhunt when he was finally found. I would guess there were others there at the time.
September 16, 201511 yr that would be the shoulder area, it's rare but possible to die from that. As quickly as he lost consciousness I'd bet a bullet fragment went into a vital organ. He was out pretty quickly it sounded from listening to the audio.
September 16, 201511 yr that would be the shoulder area, it's rare but possible to die from that. Or upper chest. During the audio you hear the first officer that arrives on scene describing the wounds as being shoulder wounds. What those rounds do once they enter the body such as splinter or ricochete all depending on what they hit. Gun shot wounds are very unpredictable. I agree with what you're saying. Really hoping Trooper Ponders vest didn't fail him though.
September 16, 201511 yr Not practical but this is how every officer would be dressed if it was left up to my wife...
September 16, 201511 yr The guy (murderer) did post on snap chat while on the run. EDDYVILLE, Ky.: Kentucky trooper's killer posted Snapchat video expressing regret | Nation | Kentucky.com He say's he didn't mean to. Just what do you mean to do when you fire your gun behind you at a LEO's vehicle?
September 16, 201511 yr He say's he didn't mean to. Just what do you mean to do when you fire your gun behind you at a LEO's vehicle? People don't think all the time, and only after their bone-headed action do they realize what they have done, not only to the other person, but also to themselves. Not saying it's an excuse.
September 16, 201511 yr It doesn't matter how the KSP handled it. They got the job done. Sometimes it's better if people don't know what happens. The bad guy got what he deserved. Bravo KSP.
September 16, 201511 yr As a gun guy, I would not recommend a police officer to use a level 2 anymore, it's the most commonly used armor but at close range we've seen in fail twice this summer locally. I would instead buy my own a level 3a vest.
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