July 16, 201511 yr How much of a lunch crowd to these places get during the week? Grail does the best, IMO. They always have a decent crowd in there. J Social and Tin Roof are average. Yardhouse and Moerlein do well. Last time I was at Toby Keith's for lunch (winter) we were 1 of 2 in that huge place and lunch took over an hour for a couple burgers. It was crazy. Haven't been back since.
July 16, 201511 yr I enjoyed this place, but haven't been in almost a year. I agree that the rent is too high, and yes, the place was huge! It's going to take a little more time for most of the places there to get steady business, with GE going in next year, more apartments are going in soon too.
July 16, 201511 yr I wonder if the landlord (or whoever it was) waited for the All-Star activities to end before closing the place down. You can stop wondering. :bunny:
July 16, 201511 yr Don't pay your bills and they shut you down. Mahogany's had the same issue with a different reaction. Toby's was the only place you could get a beer between 8-9:30 at the banks All Star night. Street bar closed at 8:00 and all of the other bars had lines to get in. That kinda told me something. It was about 1000 Degrees in there too.
July 16, 201511 yr I remember hearing they paid 20K a month for that space. Not sure if that is accurate. Chatted with a manager in training for the Yard House this weekend. She told me a normal Saturday pulls in $37-42K. Saturday with a Reds game is about $50K. Saturday of ASG they did $80K. $20K a month does not sound crazy if you do that type of volume.
July 16, 201511 yr Don't pay your bills and they shut you down. Mahogany's had the same issue with a different reaction. I wouldn't say they were the same issue. Mahogany's was a disaster from the start, and highly questionable. The lady had a lot of money/legal issues before she even signed with the city and banks. Plus, she kept lying about the payments, as well as not paying employees. It was always one day she didn't have the money, then the next she rolls in with 10's of thousands of dollars at a deadline? She was trying to get away with something.
July 16, 201511 yr Chatted with a manager in training for the Yard House this weekend. She told me a normal Saturday pulls in $37-42K. Saturday with a Reds game is about $50K. Saturday of ASG they did $80K. $20K a month does not sound crazy if you do that type of volume. True but they have a lot of expenses and Toby's wasn't doing anything close to that probably. Maybe it's more than 20K.
July 16, 201511 yr True but they have a lot of expenses and Toby's wasn't doing anything close to that probably. Maybe it's more than 20K. And how much did they have to bump up staffing to cover that kind of crowd. You never know how these revenues shift when temporary expenses kick in.
July 16, 201511 yr Guess the food and service stank just like his music. Sorry about your luck, Toby.
July 16, 201511 yr I wasn't impressed with the one in Vegas, but they decent crowds due to the location.
July 16, 201511 yr Grail does the best, IMO. They always have a decent crowd in there. J Social and Tin Roof are average. Yardhouse and Moerlein do well. Last time I was at Toby Keith's for lunch (winter) we were 1 of 2 in that huge place and lunch took over an hour for a couple burgers. It was crazy. Haven't been back since. You must never go at night. J Social is always packed and you can't move inside Tin Roof on any Friday or Saturday night.
July 17, 201511 yr This place needed to close. Terrible place to go. No atmosphere. Too big. Felt like a warehouse.
July 17, 201511 yr That would probably be best. That place was huge. There is quite a bit of unoccupied space down there still. Kinda surprised they haven't been able to attract other businesses. Exactly it was huge and I'm guessing their bill to be there was even bigger.
July 17, 201511 yr I went there three times I think and only because other restaurants were too crowded and you could get in there. Too big and service was nothing special. It was in a bad location too within the Banks.
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