June 30, 201511 yr Retailers have been sticking it to their managers for years, especially during holiday time. Most retailers tell you it's a 45-50 hour week, and holidays become 60-70 with only one off day. In reality, a lot of places look at you sideways if you're not there 60 hours per week. It's the main reason I got out of retail, even though at the end I was making very good money.
June 30, 201511 yr Retail, restaurant and hospitality are probably the worst offenders. CPA firms wear their people out during tax season but the good firms then make it up to the staff the rest of the year.
June 30, 201511 yr So I would love this. I work at a catholic school, where my salary and pay are based on a "40 hour week." I work AT LEAST 50 hours per week.
June 30, 201511 yr Retail, restaurant and hospitality are probably the worst offenders. CPA firms wear their people out during tax season but the good firms then make it up to the staff the rest of the year. Retailers typically don't go out of their way to make it to their employees the rest of the year. Retail managers typically get very few opportunities to "make up" for the extra work they put in throughout the year. Throw in working holidays (Christmas is the only holiday now where retailers are universally closed) and weekends, retail is a tough grind.
June 30, 201511 yr How is this any different than those who believe fast food workers should get $15/hr? Why not let the business owner decide how much to pay?
June 30, 201511 yr How is this any different than those who believe fast food workers should get $15/hr? Why not let the business owner decide how much to pay? Its not.
July 1, 201511 yr How is this any different than those who believe fast food workers should get $15/hr? Why not let the business owner decide how much to pay? Sometimes business owners do not have employee's well being in mind. If they did unions would never have existed, never had OSHA, or any minimum wage.
July 1, 201511 yr Sometimes business owners do not have employee's well being in mind. If they did unions would never have existed, never had OSHA, or any minimum wage. Do you think Seattle should have set the $15 minimum wage law ?
July 1, 201511 yr I've been on salary for 8 years, with just one raise during that time (the 6-month probationary period raise) and pretty much double the work added upon me as well. I'm paid for 40 hours a week. I'm a one-man department, so calling me a "manager" is really stretching it. Did some rough math in my head. For about 10 months out of the year, I work 6 and sometimes 7 days a week. I don't work 9-5 type hours, and some days I might work 5 hours and others I might work 10. Just depends on what the job dictates. For those roughly 40 weeks of the year I'm working at least 50 hours and there's usually about 4 weeks in that span where the hours climb to 75-80. It's probably safe to average it out to about 55 hours a week during this 40-week period. Get 3 weeks of vacation at 40 hours, which is the only time of year I'm actually paid for the amount of hours I "worked." The other 9 weeks of the year is the slow time, and my schedule adjusts accordingly. Probably only doing about 24 hours a week during that time. With this law in place, I would probably make an extra $8 grand a year that I could desperately use to get out of varying levels of debt and car repairs. Might even be able to afford some new clothes.
July 1, 201511 yr How is this any different than those who believe fast food workers should get $15/hr? Why not let the business owner decide how much to pay? IMO, it's very different. Telling a company what it has to pay its employees per hours is much different than allowing a company to not pay an employee ANYTHING for some of the hours he/she works.
July 1, 201511 yr Do you think Seattle should have set the $15 minimum wage law ? Every city/state is different. If KY is thinking $10 then $15 in Seattle seems legit.
July 1, 201511 yr Mixed feelings on this one. Smaller, private businesses seem to do the right thing more often than not. Larger, multinationals - not so much. Especially when the McKinsey's get hold of them. There are abuses without a doubt. A lot of salaried positions are not really salary. Punching a clock and being at your desk on a rigid, fixed schedule is not a good qualifier for 'salary'. Yet many of those type positions are under salary. If you have no real defined set of hours, have measurements that are non-utilization based (i.e. sales plan, revenue plan, customer sat plan, etc) then you are salary. The IT industry has had a few go arounds with this issue when it comes to programmers and tech support staff. Definitely do not like government getting 'too' involved - but hard to say where that is. But like raising the minimum wage (which is actually a constraint of trade and anti-freedom action) this action will cause the loss of jobs. Unlike the federal government businesses have to make budgets - and they will and that will result in loss of jobs. There is no free lunch - on or off the clock.
July 1, 201511 yr I'm probably cutting my nose off to spite my face because I would likely benefit from this BUT knowing my employer and how they go out of their way to avoid paying hourly employees overtime the remedy I see to this is employee cutbacks. They'll make up for the OT pay by eliminating positions. I'd rather have a job without OT then be unemployed.
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