I was once told at a salaried job that I needed to put in more hours in order to advance in the company.

Current job I was told, I don't care how many hours you work as long as you get the job done.

Two similar widget factories in the same town? Where exactly in China do you live?

In the grand scheme to make a profit you don't believe that competion is available in the same town? I live in NKY and believe me competion is available for my employees. May not be the exact industry that I am but skills are transferable. If I'm an accountant or a Manager at P&G my skills are transferrable to another company? Come on! You are better than that. Play like a champion!

 

Maybe that's why your stuck in the job you are. You fail to realize your skills are transferrable.

The love-your-job-or-leave-it schtick really gets overused on these boards. Quite often I think those who embrace this philosophy are the most disgruntled. They figure if they're getting taken advantage of, then everyone should join 'em.

 

A. You have no proof of your theory.

 

B. Since when does personal responsibility get old. If I'm an adult and I don't like my job it's up to me to do something about it. I shouldn't expect government to bail me out. Be an adult.

A. You have no proof of your theory.

 

B. Since when does personal responsibility get old. If I'm an adult and I don't like my job it's up to me to do something about it. I shouldn't expect government to bail me out. Be an adult.

Personal responsibility has zilch to do with Uncle Sam extending OT regulations. Re: "If I'm an adult and I don't like my job it's up to me to do something about it": Lot of people did just that. They called the White House switchboard.

Personal responsibility has zilch to do with Uncle Sam extending OT regulations. Re: "If I'm an adult and I don't like my job it's up to me to do something about it": Lot of people did just that. They called the White House switchboard.

 

There lies the problem with your mentality. People should be able to help themselves without government intervention.

There lies the problem with your mentality. People should be able to help themselves without government intervention.

You're right. In theory we should have zero labor laws on the books. But in reality, we've got thousands of 'em. How come? Because American workers lack personal responsibility? Nope. Better guess again.

You're right. In theory we should have zero labor laws on the books. But in reality, we've got thousands of 'em. How come? Because American workers lack personal responsibility? Nope. Better guess again.

 

I would argue we are already an over regulated nation. So added regulations is usually not a positive think.

Let's let big brother give more people more stuff....wins votes. If the economy is doing well, people have work options and don't have to work for bad employers.

When I was moving up the ladder, I worked a lot of hours and took on a lot of challenges to learn and get ahead. I reached a point where I realized I needed to be home more....third child. Then I limited my hours, but strove to be very productive and efficient....I moved up faster. I mentor people to focus their efforts on productivity, value-added activities, then go home or whatever they do after work. This philosophy has allowed me to recruit and maintain many talented people.

 

Having said this...there are already tests to substantiate and link pay plan to job level. These laws are enough already to solve this issue. If there is a professional making below $50k these days something else's is going on....and/or they are mis-classified and what about commissions?

Tom Eblen: Like minimum wage increase, new overtime rule long overdue | Business | Kentucky.com

When I was moving up the ladder, I worked a lot of hours and took on a lot of challenges to learn and get ahead. I reached a point where I realized I needed to be home more....third child. Then I limited my hours, but strove to be very productive and efficient....I moved up faster. I mentor people to focus their efforts on productivity, value-added activities, then go home or whatever they do after work. This philosophy has allowed me to recruit and maintain many talented people.

 

Having said this...there are already tests to substantiate and link pay plan to job level. These laws are enough already to solve this issue. If there is a professional making below $50k these days something else's is going on....and/or they are mis-classified and what about commissions?

 

I'm with you. But then again, I also worked many years in retail, and believe me, the mindset among upper management is you have to work more hours to get ahead. No one looks at how efficient you are...as a manager, you are expected to be there, and be there a lot. It's an industry where people do get taken advantage of. That being said, I made a decision to get the heck out, and I never looked back. But that's not an easy decision to make. I feel like the retail industry has needed to look at it's management work hours for a long time. Hopefully this will push them in that direction.

Tom Eblen: Like minimum wage increase, new overtime rule long overdue | Business | Kentucky.com

 

Counterpoint:

Obama's Overtime Rule -- Bad for Jobs & Employment | National Review Online

Counterpoint:

Obama's Overtime Rule -- Bad for Jobs & Employment | National Review Online

 

No need to click anybody I got this in 6 words: Everything is great. Keep working hard.

 

Some of the arguments in there are laughable though. My favorite is one that said your job is easier than it was back in 79' when the gov established this for laborers like coal miners. Fails to mention that the same could be said for the top level exec, but his wages haven't frozen; nope they are on Steroids!

 

Let's be real. It's out of date. If you can be salaried and recieve food stamps, that's wrong.

No need to click anybody I got this in 6 words: Everything is great. Keep working hard.

 

Some of the arguments in there are laughable though. My favorite is one that said your job is easier than it was back in 79' when the gov established this for laborers like coal miners. Fails to mention that the same could be said for the top level exec, but his wages haven't frozen; nope they are on Steroids!

 

Let's be real. It's out of date. If you can be salaried and recieve food stamps, that's wrong.

 

If that's all you gathered from the article I feel sorry for you. Laughable depends on the reader and his/her agenda and his/her lack of knowledge on how companies operate. I know Tom, he's a good writer. But he has his own agenda and his viewpoints are often colored so don't pretend there's not another side to his opinion. Of course for some there isn't. Sad.

If that's all you gathered from the article I feel sorry for you. Laughable depends on the reader and his/her agenda and his/her lack of knowledge on how companies operate. I know Tom, he's a good writer. But he has his own agenda and his viewpoints are often colored so don't pretend there's not another side to his opinion. Of course for some there isn't. Sad.

 

It's about time someone else does. I thought it was just me.

 

I don't know. You gotta admit that's pretty funny. I doubt a teacher, cop, nurse, fast food manager, etc. have an easier job than they had 30 years ago.