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A friend of mine that is a flaming atheist (he even gets on my nerves about it) got kicked out. I do believe they gave him his money back. Moral of the story, you can go there, but don't have any delusions that the 1st Amendment allows you to speak your mind there.

 

Other than wanting to be obnoxious, I don't know why anyone would want to go there and speak their mind. You don't agree with it, just stay away.

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Toured the museum a few years back out of general curiosity. Some stuff was humorous, like dinosaurs climbing aboard the ark. Some stuff was wrong -- "Here I stand" was not part of Luther's 95 theses. Thought the names of some coffee drinks were humorous -- "Give me a 'John 3:16 latte,' please." My general impression was that this was the type of place that would appeal to people like the Duggars, religious home-schoolers, etc. Thought the exhibits themselves were fairly well thought-out and constructed. I can see where some people would be asked to leave for vocalizing their opinions.

 

Question for Catholic parents: Do Catholic schoolkids regularly tour the museum as part of school curriculum? If not, why not?

 

It's unlikely that Catholic schools would schedule trips to the Creation Museum. From CatholicBridge.com:

 

The two sides of Genesis question

 

People get really emotional about the subject of Creationism, almost as if our salvation depends on whether or not we accept it. Some Christians attribute all of our modern problems to society's lack of belief in Creationism. Other Christians say that the insistence to preach Creationism is what alienates many reasonable people from the Bible and Christianity. They cite St. Thomas' (1225-1274) warning:

 

 

"one should not try to defend the Christian faith with arguments that are so patently opposed to reason that the faith is made to look ridiculous... irrisio infidelium, the scorn of the unbelievers."

 

There are shrill voices on all sides. I'm not going to attempt to solve everything in this article. Catholics are free to believe in Creationism, they are also free to believe in an old earth. Some faithful Catholics believe that God created the universe and all that is in it exactly word for word as it is laid out in Genesis 1 - a young earth. Other good Catholics believe in an old earth. The Church has no defined Dogma regarding the specifics of how the earth and the human body were created. Nor does it think that we have to nail that down to be saved.

 

In fact, if someone believes the world is flat, they can still be a faithful Catholic. In the early days many Catholics believed the world was flat, and they still went to Heaven. God is in search of a faithful heart, not a degree in science. Jesus said "become as children." (Mat 18:3) Most children don't know how old the earth is and don't care.

It's unlikely that Catholic schools would schedule trips to the Creation Museum. From CatholicBridge.com:

 

The two sides of Genesis question

 

People get really emotional about the subject of Creationism, almost as if our salvation depends on whether or not we accept it. Some Christians attribute all of our modern problems to society's lack of belief in Creationism. Other Christians say that the insistence to preach Creationism is what alienates many reasonable people from the Bible and Christianity. They cite St. Thomas' (1225-1274) warning:

 

 

"one should not try to defend the Christian faith with arguments that are so patently opposed to reason that the faith is made to look ridiculous... irrisio infidelium, the scorn of the unbelievers."

 

There are shrill voices on all sides. I'm not going to attempt to solve everything in this article. Catholics are free to believe in Creationism, they are also free to believe in an old earth. Some faithful Catholics believe that God created the universe and all that is in it exactly word for word as it is laid out in Genesis 1 - a young earth. Other good Catholics believe in an old earth. The Church has no defined Dogma regarding the specifics of how the earth and the human body were created. Nor does it think that we have to nail that down to be saved.

 

In fact, if someone believes the world is flat, they can still be a faithful Catholic. In the early days many Catholics believed the world was flat, and they still went to Heaven. God is in search of a faithful heart, not a degree in science. Jesus said "become as children." (Mat 18:3) Most children don't know how old the earth is and don't care.

Thanks. I didn't think that Catholic elementary schools would be taking field trips to the Creation Museum even though there's likely an overlap in some areas of belief or doctrine.

I've never been to the museum. Whenever I have conversation with the "Answers in Genesis" people, we usually are on different ends of the spectrum. I would like to go but I hear it is expensive and takes a really long time. But I am very much an "Old Earth" Christian but I guess I admire that they were able to create an entire museum. I am very much against the Noah Ark Park that is allegedly being built in Grant County but I'm not about to protest or act like a nut.

 

I really did enjoy watching the 3 hour debate between Ken Hamm and Bill Nye the Science Guy last year.

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You did a great job staying within the lines papa.

You did a great job staying within the lines papa.

 

 

I was there.

 

I'm so old I have an autographed Bible.

Positive, not a violent guy at all. Extremely intelligent and very well versed on religion and science.

 

Which means he was probably debating with the tour guide and offering his own commentary about the exhibits? Politely, but still.

Like others on here, I'm am very religious, but some other Christains and so-called Christains get on my nerves, they are way too far to the right.

 

I have no interests in going there, as was mentioned, it seems like a place that the Duggers would enjoy.

 

I can see a place like that asking someone to leave by simply and respectfully asking questions. I've heard they just want you to accept what is there and what they say within asking questions. "Just agree with what we say and don't ask any questions or try to debate" is how I see them operating.

 

BTW, how is their Ark coming along? How come they think they could ask for help from the state to build that thing yet not agree to hiring practices?

Like others on here, I'm am very religious, but some other Christains and so-called Christains get on my nerves, they are way too far to the right.

 

I have no interests in going there, as was mentioned, it seems like a place that the Duggers would enjoy.

 

I can see a place like that asking someone to leave by simply and respectfully asking questions. I've heard they just want you to accept what is there and what they say within asking questions. "Just agree with what we say and don't ask any questions or try to debate" is how I see them operating.

 

BTW, how is their Ark coming along? How come they think they could ask for help from the state to build that thing yet not agree to hiring practices?

 

I thought that changed, at least the getting money from the state.

 

That same buddy of mine they kicked out is a member of some type of free thinking group that lobbied the state not to fund the Ark and I believe they were successful.

 

Anyone?

I know you can pay $20 per vehicle (or $10 if you are a Creation Museum member) to visit and watch the construction. I have some friends in the construction field who working on the project.

I thought that changed, at least the getting money from the state.

 

That same buddy of mine they kicked out is a member of some type of free thinking group that lobbied the state not to fund the Ark and I believe they were successful.

 

Anyone?

 

Yes they eventually pulled the money from the Ark Park.

 

I was meaning how could the Ark Park people think that they could ask/get money and still discriminate. It was bound to fall apart.

I thought that changed, at least the getting money from the state.

 

That same buddy of mine they kicked out is a member of some type of free thinking group that lobbied the state not to fund the Ark and I believe they were successful.

 

Anyone?

 

 

I don't understand why the state even considered it in the first place. Funding their projects and organization with state money would have to be unconstitutional due to separation of church and state.

Which means he was probably debating with the tour guide and offering his own commentary about the exhibits? Politely, but still.

 

I thought that changed, at least the getting money from the state.

 

That same buddy of mine they kicked out is a member of some type of free thinking group that lobbied the state not to fund the Ark and I believe they were successful.

 

Anyone?

 

This above? I'm not saying he did anything I wouldn't do myself. I would find it difficult to muzzle myself in a place such as that.

I don't quite understand why people who are strongly against it, would go there. I don't go there because I know it would make me very angry to see such poor use of logic being used and being put out as complete, unquestionable fact.

 

I think the AiG people aren't exactly smart, nor are they good with research, in whatever capacity they think they are using it. I'm not a religious person as much any more, but had nothing to do with them. If someone thinks it would be enjoyable, then they should go. For people to go just to argue or anything like that seems silly. It's not like they're going to win over the people on that side of the issue.

 

I've seen pictures of exhibits and things, and I always just roll my eyes and sigh.

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