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Local atheists, curious if you've ever..

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I know a guy that was/is a huge supporter of the Museum. When ever he spoke about AiG he couldn't get past talking about dinosaurs, he spoke at our church once about AiG and I think most everyone dismissed the rest of what he was saying just because of the constant focus on dinosaurs.

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This Ken Hamm is a marketing whiz. To say that dinosaurs and humans co-existed at the same time and actually convince people to donate big bucks and others to pay to see an exhibit based around a 6,000 year old earth and a Great Flood myth is remarkable in this day and age.

I don't buy into it but evidently there's enough people who do to keep his business operating.

Positive, not a violent guy at all. Extremely intelligent and very well versed on religion and science.

 

 

Definitely the type of people they DO NOT want there!

..been to the creation museum? Just wondering if ever out of morbid curiousity if you've ever gone. With the open mindedness of that crowd, I would think that it would at the least be intriguing to you.

 

 

It would be strictly out of MIND-NUMBING curiosity and no, I haven't been. Like guru's friend, they wouldn't want me there for long.

Word is that the GOP is holding its national convention here next summer. Definitely a good fit.

So, you're telling me he got kicked out by acting respectfully? Come on. I'm not buying that.

 

 

Oh, I absolutely buy it. They want no one there properly educating their delusional market.

Toured the museum a few years back out of general curiosity. Some stuff was humorous, like dinosaurs climbing aboard the ark. Some stuff was wrong -- "Here I stand" was not part of Luther's 95 theses. Thought the names of some coffee drinks were humorous -- "Give me a 'John 3:16 latte,' please." My general impression was that this was the type of place that would appeal to people like the Duggars, religious home-schoolers, etc. Thought the exhibits themselves were fairly well thought-out and constructed. I can see where some people would be asked to leave for vocalizing their opinions.

 

Question for Catholic parents: Do Catholic schoolkids regularly tour the museum as part of school curriculum? If not, why not?

 

The Catholic Church has not mandated belief in Creationism for centuries. The central teaching of the church is that in some way, God created everything. Was it through the Big Bang or something similar to it? Not sure, let the scientists figure that part out.

 

Pope Paul V actually believed much of what Galileo discovered (earth not the center of the universe like the bible suggests, etc.) but knew that uneducated society as a whole was not ready to accept such beliefs and even with papal backing would cause an uproar. While Darwin deserves the credit for getting evolution started, much of the additional science in evolution comes from Jesuits and other Catholic clergy who spent their lives in Universities.

This Ken Hamm is a marketing whiz. To say that dinosaurs and humans co-existed at the same time and actually convince people to donate big bucks and others to pay to see an exhibit based around a 6,000 year old earth and a Great Flood myth is remarkable in this day and age.

I don't buy into it but evidently there's enough people who do to keep his business operating.

 

 

Churches in SE KY are full of buyers....

The Catholic Church has not mandated belief in Creationism for centuries. The central teaching of the church is that in some way, God created everything. Was it through the Big Bang or something similar to it? Not sure, let the scientists figure that part out.

 

Pope Paul V actually believed much of what Galileo discovered (earth not the center of the universe like the bible suggests, etc.) but knew that uneducated society as a whole was not ready to accept such beliefs and even with papal backing would cause an uproar. While Darwin deserves the credit for getting evolution started, much of the additional science in evolution comes from Jesuits and other Catholic clergy who spent their lives in Universities.

 

Correct, the Church does not simply say "you must believe this." Their stance is that we do not know the true process of how earth was created, but we do know that it was started by God.

 

 

Big Bang is absolutely plausible (not that you said different) and was actually thought of by a Catholic priest!

 

 

And the Church has always been an avid supporter of astrology, as they still use the patterns of the Moon to determine some holy days (Easter, etc.).

 

Great post, @Bert. :thumb:

A microcosm of religion... just accept... don't think ....don't question.

 

That is the beauty of my faith-filled journey, I have thought and questioned almost every aspect of my religion. And through those challenges I have come to grow stronger in my belief in them! Not every Christian or church-goer blindly follows.

Correct, the Church does not simply say "you must believe this." Their stance is that we do not know the true process of how earth was created, but we do know that it was started by God.

 

 

Big Bang is absolutely plausible (not that you said different) and was actually thought of by a Catholic priest!

 

 

And the Church has always been an avid supporter of astrology, as they still use the patterns of the Moon to determine some holy days (Easter, etc.).

 

Great post, @Bert. :thumb:

 

Other than anyone claiming "they know" we are about on the same page.

Other than anyone claiming "they know" we are about on the same page.

 

I should have put this:

 

Correct, the Church does not simply say "you must believe this or that." Their stance is that we do not know the true process of how earth was created, but we [Catholics] believe that it was started by God.
Churches in SE KY are full of buyers....

 

I agree. Very conservative and literal in their interpretation of the Bible. I was trying to have a discussion with my girlfriend's 70+ age uncle a couple of years ago about some Biblical topics and after a few minutes of talk back and forth he suddenly gets a 'wow' like look on his face and said, "You mean to tell me you don't believe every word in the book?"

His eyes then watered up and he got emotional and I decided to change the subject to something else. I usually don't discuss religious topics very much because of those type scenarios reoccurring. And if I get trapped into a discussion I just nod my head, listen, don't disagree with anything they say, and let it ride. People who have been indoctrinated since childhood with certain beliefs are not going to change very much in those beliefs throughout their lives, no matter how much science or evidence is presented to them.

I know a guy that was/is a huge supporter of the Museum. When ever he spoke about AiG he couldn't get past talking about dinosaurs, he spoke at our church once about AiG and I think most everyone dismissed the rest of what he was saying just because of the constant focus on dinosaurs.

 

This Ken Hamm is a marketing whiz. To say that dinosaurs and humans co-existed at the same time and actually convince people to donate big bucks and others to pay to see an exhibit based around a 6,000 year old earth and a Great Flood myth is remarkable in this day and age.

I don't buy into it but evidently there's enough people who do to keep his business operating.

 

Folks, the correct term is "missionary lizards," not "dinosaurs." The atheists call them "dinosaurs."

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