March 20, 201511 yr I will say only this. When you see your step dad murder your mom at 10 years old the resulting emotional damage is long lasting and very tough to reverse. Ellis has a ton of anger issues that he has worked hard to overcome, but they still surface from time to time and get the better of him. Enjoy your glass houses...
March 20, 201511 yr On the game: Someone had to win. UC did less to lose down the stretch than Purdue. Ellis deserved the ejection. UC overcame that and won the game.
March 20, 201511 yr Yea one player's action makes the entire team thugs. :ohbrother: Some of you live a perfect life. Forgot. Ellis deserved the ejection but it was a weak flagrant 2. Got ejected more on intent than actual contact.
March 20, 201511 yr What's it like to be as perfect as some of you are? That must be nice... So we shouldn't teach him to be held accountable for his actions? He gets a free pass in life because he had it rough? Yes Marshall Mathers I know Detroit sucks, you grew up poor and your mom sucks, you've sung it now for 15 years.
March 20, 201511 yr So we shouldn't teach him to be held accountable for his actions? He gets a free pass in life because he had it rough? Yes Marshall Mathers I know Detroit sucks, you grew up poor and your mom sucks, you've sung it now for 15 years. He didn't get a free pass. He was ejected from the game. GT just explained why the kid has issues. He's not justifying his actions, but just explaining where the anger issues stem from.
March 20, 201511 yr He didn't get a free pass. He was ejected from the game. GT just explained why the kid has issues. He's not justifying his actions, but just explaining where the anger issues stem from. Ellis has had it unimaginably rough to be sure, but I don't think it's "throwing stones" or unfair to ask the question of when is enough enough for UC and they part ways with the kid?
March 20, 201511 yr He didn't get a free pass. He was ejected from the game. GT just explained why the kid has issues. He's not justifying his actions, but just explaining where the anger issues stem from. If we really want to help this kid, maybe he shouldn't be playing basketball where he can be a loose cannon and hurt someone then. Let him be a student coach until he can get himself under control. Guys like that are better off in a non physical atmosphere. Hopefully, he can figure things out and maybe become a counselor to help others.
March 20, 201511 yr Ellis has had it unimaginably rough to be sure, but I don't think it's "throwing stones" or unfair to ask the question of when is enough enough for UC and they part ways with the kid? I'll admit I know nothing about the young kid, but if 3 or 4 ejections from basketball games is the worst he's done so far then I believe you give him a lot more room to work past those issues.
March 20, 201511 yr I'll admit I know nothing about the young kid, but if 3 or 4 ejections from basketball games is the worst he's done so far then I believe you give him a lot more room to work past those issues. He was dismissed and went the JUCO route for punching a bouncer at a nightclub before they brought him back into the program. It hasn't been just on-court incidents.
March 20, 201511 yr Maybe he shouldn't be playing basketball where he can be a loose cannon and hurt someone then. Guys like that are better off in a non physical atmosphere. Hopefully, he can figure things out and maybe become a counselor to help others, but our society is where it is today because we don't hold people accountable and instead of help them escape their past, we let them fall back on it. If he is like this in an organized structured environment of having to be in a college basketball program where their daily schedules from classes, practices, games, takes up a lot of their time, etc. Then imagine how much his anger would pop up if he wasn't in such a structured environment like this. So to say not being in such a structured environment like a basketball team is bad for him is completely wrong IMO. The worry should be like once he is no longer in a structured environment. So yes they do need to be held accountable, however this could also be something that eventually learns from. There does need to be consequences for actions because that is also how someone learns. Our society needs to find a middle ground between the two. You say our society is where it is today because people aren't held accountable and that is true in some cases. However also imagine where our society would be if we didn't have things that can help people change. We would still have a lot of bad things going on and maybe more. The key is to find a middle ground between the two.
March 20, 201511 yr The amount of hate people have for UC is absurd. Yep. Did you see my tweet 12 hours ago? The amount of HATE people have in general, specifically on message boards and social media, is really gross. The summary is everyone is perfect and life is all about extremes (the best, the worst, etc.). Oh wait....maybe not....
March 20, 201511 yr The amount of hate people have for UC is absurd. I'd say the amount of hate people have for sports teams as a whole is absurd.
March 20, 201511 yr Yea one player's action makes the entire team thugs. :ohbrother: Some of you live a perfect life. Forgot. Ellis deserved the ejection but it was a weak flagrant 2. Got ejected more on intent than actual contact. I think that intent is enough to warrant the ejection. If a player throws a punch, and he misses, I believe he is still ejected.
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