Highlands - Holy Cross Game Scheduled for 1/9 Cancelled

[RCC9]

Don't think it has anything to do with number 8.

[RCC9]

Why would HC be scared of HHS?

[LMS]

I'm going with #13. The "not a serious sport" thing.

 

Maybe for HC #13 is true but not for the rest of Region 9.

[Twotoplace]

I would try to answer...but I'm not positive where you're going with that?

If the cancellation is malady-related (flu for instance), then that's a legitimate reason not to play. If the reason is something else (discipline issues, etc.), then that raises questions involving KHSAA regulations, sportsmanship, etc. So is the issue illness ... or something else? Lest we forget, Gene Hackman and Hickory High won the Indiana state championship in '54 with just seven players.

[mcpapa]

If the cancellation is malady-related (flu for instance), then that's a legitimate reason not to play. If the reason is something else (discipline issues, etc.), then that raises questions involving KHSAA regulations, sportsmanship, etc. So is the issue illness ... or something else? Lest we forget, Gene Hackman and Hickory High won the Indiana state championship in '54 with just seven players.

 

Including that little dude that shot free throws underhanded.

[Twotoplace]

Including that little dude that shot free throws underhanded.

Wait a minute. Isn't Rick Berry No. 2 all-time in NBA free-throw percentage? (He shot free-throws under-handed.)

[Lawnboy13]

I read this thread with no trepidation whatever, knowing you guys would never steer me wrong.

 

But alas, now I'm confused.

 

I'm unsure which of the various theories and ironclad explanations from this reliably in-the-know crowd to believe.

 

So I compiled the various suggestions that have been posited in this thread:

 

1 -- Holy Cross is scared of Highlands.

2 -- A Holy Cross player sneezed two weeks ago, and now the coaches are worried.

3 -- Holy Cross girls are princesses, and not used to playing in winter.

4 -- "Something" went down in a summer game, and this all flows from that.

5 -- Holy Cross had decided it was going to lose this game, and it didn't want another loss, so it canceled.

6 -- Holy Cross decided its girls needed rest for the small-school tournament coming up (because it's the highlight of the season), so it called off all practices and games for the week so the girls could stay home and sleep.

7 -- Coach Murphy just had something he'd rather do that night.

8 -- There's bad blood between Coach Murphy and Coach Richey.

9 -- Holy Cross' girls need to get ready for prom.

10 -- The Holy Cross boys' team wanted the gym to practice in, so the school canceled the girls' game.

11 -- Holy Cross wants to "protect" its season, so the coaches have decided to go through the remaining schedule and cancel each game against a tough team. This was all poor planning, you see, because they scheduled so many tough schools.

12 -- Holy Cross refuses to play any game without every single one of its players (and the fact that the school has played 13-14 games with seven girls out at various times with injuries, and has played almost every game with a starter or starters missing, is just an coincidental string of anomalies.)

13 -- This reflects the "prevailing mindset" of girls basketball, which is that this isn't a serious sport and the girls aren't really athletes.

14 -- There's a problem with the furnace, and the temperature fluctuated by a degree, and Holy Cross girls are princesses (corollary to previous theory).

15 -- Holy Cross isn't as tough as those guy football teams, which by gawd would suit up 6th graders -- and have, dag-nabbit!!!-- against the state champion to uphold the good name of their school. (This one is popular with the "back in my day" crowd.)

16 -- Holy Cross is still upset about losing to Brossart, and their "tummies hurt" (i.e. don't have the stomach for competition any more).

17 -- Holy Cross is worried about its "conference" record because this is a big "conference" game (tho I'm still trying to find someone at HC that even knows what "conference" that is).

18 -- Holy Cross doesn't understand the value of letting underclassman step up and get experience when there are injuries or sicknesses, and it would never ever ever ever EVER let younger girls play (again, it was just a string of anomalies that Deja Turner, Dajah McClendon, Courtney Turner, the Crigler girl and DeAsia Beal played varsity as 8th graders, and Abby Hassert, Ally Mayhaus, Aleah Tucker and a slew of others played as freshmen).

19 -- Holy Cross is scared of Highlands (I list this one twice because it seems pretty darn popular).

 

So, please, fellas, help me out. Which one is right?

 

Thank you B-Ball-fan. :lol2:

[lawildcat]

Nothing like bashing an entire team/school without knowing all the facts.

[ballsohard]

It's a day later and no one still has a definitive reason for the cancelation?

[SG ESQ]

If the cancellation is malady-related (flu for instance), then that's a legitimate reason not to play. If the reason is something else (discipline issues, etc.), then that raises questions involving KHSAA regulations, sportsmanship, etc. So is the issue illness ... or something else? Lest we forget, Gene Hackman and Hickory High won the Indiana state championship in '54 with just seven players.

 

I have no dog in the fight, but I just wanted to correct an incorrect statement. Hickory High had 8 players on its roster. Buddy - who quit after the first practice - initially transferred to Terhune. However, he had a change of heart, and asked Coach Dale for a second chance. The scenes of him transferring and asking Coach Dale to return to the team were cut from the movie. Thus, they had 8 on their roster when they upset heavily favored South Bend Central

 

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[dg21]

I read this thread with no trepidation whatever, knowing you guys would never steer me wrong.

 

But alas, now I'm confused.

 

I'm unsure which of the various theories and ironclad explanations from this reliably in-the-know crowd to believe.

 

So I compiled the various suggestions that have been posited in this thread:

 

1 -- Holy Cross is scared of Highlands.

2 -- A Holy Cross player sneezed two weeks ago, and now the coaches are worried.

3 -- Holy Cross girls are princesses, and not used to playing in winter.

4 -- "Something" went down in a summer game, and this all flows from that.

5 -- Holy Cross had decided it was going to lose this game, and it didn't want another loss, so it canceled.

6 -- Holy Cross decided its girls needed rest for the small-school tournament coming up (because it's the highlight of the season), so it called off all practices and games for the week so the girls could stay home and sleep.

7 -- Coach Murphy just had something he'd rather do that night.

8 -- There's bad blood between Coach Murphy and Coach Richey.

9 -- Holy Cross' girls need to get ready for prom.

10 -- The Holy Cross boys' team wanted the gym to practice in, so the school canceled the girls' game.

11 -- Holy Cross wants to "protect" its season, so the coaches have decided to go through the remaining schedule and cancel each game against a tough team. This was all poor planning, you see, because they scheduled so many tough schools.

12 -- Holy Cross refuses to play any game without every single one of its players (and the fact that the school has played 13-14 games with seven girls out at various times with injuries, and has played almost every game with a starter or starters missing, is just an coincidental string of anomalies.)

13 -- This reflects the "prevailing mindset" of girls basketball, which is that this isn't a serious sport and the girls aren't really athletes.

14 -- There's a problem with the furnace, and the temperature fluctuated by a degree, and Holy Cross girls are princesses (corollary to previous theory).

15 -- Holy Cross isn't as tough as those guy football teams, which by gawd would suit up 6th graders -- and have, dag-nabbit!!!-- against the state champion to uphold the good name of their school. (This one is popular with the "back in my day" crowd.)

16 -- Holy Cross is still upset about losing to Brossart, and their "tummies hurt" (i.e. don't have the stomach for competition any more).

17 -- Holy Cross is worried about its "conference" record because this is a big "conference" game (tho I'm still trying to find someone at HC that even knows what "conference" that is).

18 -- Holy Cross doesn't understand the value of letting underclassman step up and get experience when there are injuries or sicknesses, and it would never ever ever ever EVER let younger girls play (again, it was just a string of anomalies that Deja Turner, Dajah McClendon, Courtney Turner, the Crigler girl and DeAsia Beal played varsity as 8th graders, and Abby Hassert, Ally Mayhaus, Aleah Tucker and a slew of others played as freshmen).

19 -- Holy Cross is scared of Highlands (I list this one twice because it seems pretty darn popular).

 

So, please, fellas, help me out. Which one is right?

 

 

 

wow!

[BengalBob]

I suggest maybe reason #20 (not included in the original list).

 

#20 The Holy Cross Coach made a decision he/she felt was in the best interest of the team and players and didn't feel the need to consult with the HHS fans/parents/players/BGP'ers for their approval.

 

I'm sure that if Coach Richey was upset that she voiced her concerns with the HC coach and they handled things like the professionals that they are. I suggest to you that "There is golf to be played and tennis to be played . . . " (To quote the great Sam Wyche). Albeit a tad cold for those pursuits.

[RCC9]

I suggest maybe reason #20 (not included in the original list).

 

#20 The Holy Cross Coach made a decision he/she felt was in the best interest of the team and players and didn't feel the need to consult with the HHS fans/parents/players/BGP'ers for their approval.

 

 

 

I'm sure that if Coach Richey was upset that she voiced her concerns with the HC coach and they handled things like the professionals that they are. I suggest to you that "There is golf to be played and tennis to be played . . . " (To quote the great Sam Wyche). Albeit a tad cold for those pursuits.

 

Sure...#20 is a "possibility". So much I'd like to add, but I'm sworn to secrecy!!

 

I will pose the same thing I mentioned above. If coach Richy does ANYTHING other than agree, how would that make her look? Think through what happens if she says no, not canceling...or anything related to that.

[Twotoplace]

Is Holy Cross in danger of exceeding its season game limit with a deep run in the All-A tourney? Is that what this is about?

 

From the KHSAA bylaws:

 

4. No member school shall play more than twenty-three (23) basketball games during the regular season. A maximum of two (2) tournaments may be included in any manner other than counting each game played against the limit of twenty-three (23) games. Any two tournaments played during the regular season may be counted as one game per tournament, against the limit of twenty three (23) provided that neither tournament necessitates the team playing more than four (4) games. Any game played over the limit of four in any one tournament shall be counted against the limit of twenty-three (23) games.

[gobigblue9]

Just shows me the true colors of the coaching staff and AD. Sorry if I stepped out of line but this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. There are no kids sick two are hurt. Hc is afraid of losing to a team the has a chance to win the region bottom line.(I know there are no kids sick I have info but I will not share). Its a sad day to be a Hc fan or be part of a high school that does these things.