November 12, 201411 yr This sign is an icon in Cincinnati and has been for decades! Petition asks car dealer to remove Native American sign | Local News - WLWT Home A group has started a petition that seeks the removal of an iconic Carthage landmark. The Native American sign at Motor Time Auto Sales on Vine Street is facing criticism. The sign has stood for decades and is widely recognized. People opposed to the advertisement say the sign is racist and dehumanizes a race of people. In an online petition to have the sign taken down, organizers said, “Although the large Indian sign has been part of the advertisement for this car dealership for years it is highly offensive to Native people. Native people have been a target of this type of passive aggressive racism for years. It dehumanizes a race of people giving a false sense of being OK and is another form of genocide. Native people are discriminated against much like the African American population. However, you would never see a 15 foot caricature of a "lil black sambo" in this day and age, why is it OK for a 15 foot caricature of (an) Indian? This kind of passive aggressive racism is just as detrimental to Native people as any other type. Be part of the change.” Judy Gibson Combs started the petition. Combs said the sign is offensive to her being of Native American decent. Combs’ friend, Homer Shadowheart, is a Native American who said he has tried to talk with the owner of the dealership to do something about the sign. Shadowheart said his talks with the dealership owner have gone nowhere. The owner of the car lot was out of town and not able to comment on the petition. On a side note, Homer Shadowheart is a 10th region basketball ref, I believe. Or maybe a 10th region umpire. Now I can't remember which. I just know that Mr. lawildcat has worked with him as one or the other.
November 12, 201411 yr I wonder what she finds offensive about the sign? How is Aunt Jemima still sold today?
November 12, 201411 yr I'm half Irish, where's the outcry for me? Why are my people always referred to as fighting Irish? Notre Dame should be ashamed! I'm also part Cherokee, I'm guessing ms Gibson Combs and I have around the same %. I'm not worried about it. She needs to find something to occupy her time. Lol
November 12, 201411 yr I wonder what she finds offensive about the sign? How is Aunt Jemima still sold today? Cream of Wheat guy (Rastus?) and Uncle Ben rice are two others who have come under scrutiny in the past.
November 13, 201411 yr "Where Paddock meets Vine at the big Indian sign!" Guess you couldn't use that slogan anymore.
November 13, 201411 yr I'm half Irish, where's the outcry for me? Why are my people always referred to as fighting Irish? Notre Dame should be ashamed! I'm also part Cherokee, I'm guessing ms Gibson Combs and I have around the same %. I'm not worried about it. She needs to find something to occupy her time. Lol Oh, I always thought you all were drunks
November 13, 201411 yr To where our Country is headed or I guess already is. Grow some thicker skin already. Wait, is that offensive too. I said "skin".
November 13, 201411 yr This sign is an icon in Cincinnati and has been for decades! Petition asks car dealer to remove Native American sign | Local News - WLWT Home A group has started a petition that seeks the removal of an iconic Carthage landmark. The Native American sign at Motor Time Auto Sales on Vine Street is facing criticism. The sign has stood for decades and is widely recognized. People opposed to the advertisement say the sign is racist and dehumanizes a race of people. In an online petition to have the sign taken down, organizers said, “Although the large Indian sign has been part of the advertisement for this car dealership for years it is highly offensive to Native people. Native people have been a target of this type of passive aggressive racism for years. It dehumanizes a race of people giving a false sense of being OK and is another form of genocide. Native people are discriminated against much like the African American population. However, you would never see a 15 foot caricature of a "lil black sambo" in this day and age, why is it OK for a 15 foot caricature of (an) Indian? This kind of passive aggressive racism is just as detrimental to Native people as any other type. Be part of the change.” Judy Gibson Combs started the petition. Combs said the sign is offensive to her being of Native American decent. Combs’ friend, Homer Shadowheart, is a Native American who said he has tried to talk with the owner of the dealership to do something about the sign. Shadowheart said his talks with the dealership owner have gone nowhere. The owner of the car lot was out of town and not able to comment on the petition. [ATTACH=CONFIG]47836[/ATTACH] On a side note, Homer Shadowheart is a 10th region basketball ref, I believe. Or maybe a 10th region umpire. Now I can't remember which. I just know that Mr. lawildcat has worked with him as one or the other. Maybe they've never been to North Myrtle Beach.
November 13, 201411 yr I've never been comfortable with telling a group of people what should and shouldn't offend them.
November 13, 201411 yr I wonder what she finds offensive about the sign? How is Aunt Jemima still sold today? Cream of Wheat guy (Rastus?) and Uncle Ben rice are two others who have come under scrutiny in the past. Can't we find a fat old white woman that can make pancakes and rice? :no:
November 13, 201411 yr Can't we find a fat old white woman that can make pancakes and rice? :no: I would say something but I really don't feel like going to emergency to have a cast iron skillet removed from my head.
November 13, 201411 yr I've never been comfortable with telling a group of people what should and shouldn't offend them. Especially when you're not a member of the group claiming offense.
November 13, 201411 yr I'm not sure exactly what I feel about this. I would not want to offend any Native Americans with the sign if it does, but I'm not too sure what exactly they're finding offensive about the sign. Sure, it's cartoonish in a way, but their people in fact used to commonly wear certain styles and have headdresses with feathers (not saying that's funny or laugh worthy). I don't think that their display of that is obviously insulting or knee-slapping ridiculous indicating any obvious attempt at ridicule. Not too sure of the origins of the area, but perhaps that local area is known to have a history of Native inhabitants hence the origins of selecting the sign years ago. If it were actually poking obvious fun at them in an insulting way I could definitely see the issue, but I'm not seeing where that's happening in the sign. I guess that you could spin it in various ways to support the idea that it's insulting, but while there's a ongoing cleansing of past "Indian" references, before we/they know it, there will be nary references about them and many will even forget that some are our neighbors. No doubt they suffered a horrible history at the hands of the white man, but do they ultimately not even want to be noticed or remembered within our current and future culture? Perhaps they could look at the sign as recognition and respect for their existence.
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