Religious folks are starting to get irrational these days.

 

I don't at all disagree, but some anti-religious folks are getting just as irrational.

I don't at all disagree, but some anti-religious folks are getting just as irrational.

 

 

This is true as well. Two way street for sure.

I'd stay silent, and show them the same respect I'd appreciate if it were the other way around. Unfortunately, I think I'm in the minority.

 

Same here. I think about how after some high school basketball games some teams will ask the other team to join them in prayer at halfcourt. The whole gym gets silent and a large majority of people bow their heads and show respect to those praying. I shudder to think of what the situation would be if a group of 5 muslims chose to pray at halfcourt after a game.

I disagree. I think you'd be in favor of complete squelch of any religious talk anywhere. This issue has ZERO to do with morality. And no one begged anyone to join in. You've managed to tune it out your entire life, why the difficulty now?

 

You can disagree all you want, you are wrong.

Just spreading the gospel like we've been instructed to do!

 

There is a time and a place for everything.

I don't at all disagree, but some anti-religious folks are getting just as irrational.

 

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

Guru you have a theme on this site of your stance against all religions I get it. But there was nothing illegal done. I as a citizen can recite a prayer anywhere I want as long as I'm not causing some huge disturbance.

 

Prayer can not be state sponsored. There is no way in any world two students reciting a prayer can be considered state sponsored. There is no law against it and you can't sue students and schools can't punish to restrict religious freedom. Sorry Guru you can't win this one.

Another advantage of Private schools...........but in all seriousness what about Catholic schools that have the crowd stand for a prayer before every contest including those when they are hosting a Public school. Should the Public school employees refuse to participat If they did it is their loss

Guru you have a theme on this site of your stance against all religions I get it. But there was nothing illegal done. I as a citizen can recite a prayer anywhere I want as long as I'm not causing some huge disturbance.

 

Prayer can not be state sponsored. There is no way in any world two students reciting a prayer can be considered state sponsored. There is no law against it and you can't sue students and schools can't punish to restrict religious freedom. Sorry Guru you can't win this one.

 

I am not "against" any religion but thank you for recognizing that my objections are not limited to only one type of religion.

 

All that I am saying is that "religious people" need to leave us "non-religious people" alone. Quit forcing your beliefs/prayers on the rest of us in any governmental settings.

 

And as far as this thread is concerned, I am not trying to win anything, I am pointing out (just like Getslow said) " it's pretty clear that the cheerleaders appear to have stood at midfield during this pretty thinly-veiled "moment of silence" and led the crowd in prayer."

 

Was this against the law? Probably not. Was it in violation of the spirit of the law? Probably so.

Eh, I don't think anything is being forced on anyone. If I hear something in public, on the radio, on TV that I don't agree with or like, I tune it out. I don't feel put out or like I'm being forced into something. I see this as no different.

I am not "against" any religion but thank you for recognizing that my objections are not limited to only one type of religion.

 

All that I am saying is that "religious people" need to leave us "non-religious people" alone. Quit forcing your beliefs/prayers on the rest of us in any governmental settings.

 

And as far as this thread is concerned, I am not trying to win anything, I am pointing out (just like Getslow said) " it's pretty clear that the cheerleaders appear to have stood at midfield during this pretty thinly-veiled "moment of silence" and led the crowd in prayer."

 

Was this against the law? Probably not. Was it in violation of the spirit of the law? Probably so.

 

I waited to respond until our resident legal expert hersay chimned in. He confirmed what I thought.

 

I personally don't even see it being against the spirit of the law. There is no law against a moment of silence nor an individual praying. I think anyone who complains about this is grasping for straws.

 

I agree some religious people can cross lines and get on my nerves. This just isn't one of those cases. Nothing wrong happened.

 

Everyone was free to participate or not participate. If they were of a different religion they could recite something of their own choice.

 

This just wasn't a big deal.

I waited to respond until our resident legal expert hersay chimned in. He confirmed what I thought.

 

I personally don't even see it being against the spirit of the law. There is no law against a moment of silence nor an individual praying. I think anyone who complains about this is grasping for straws.

 

I agree some religious people can cross lines and get on my nerves. This just isn't one of those cases. Nothing wrong happened.

 

Everyone was free to participate or not participate. If they were of a different religion they could recite something of their own choice.

 

This just wasn't a big deal.

 

You and I are probably closer on all of this than we realize.

I find it ironic that those who consider themselves free thinkers and don't succumb to the religious propaganda of the weak minded, can't muster the intellectual acquity and fortitude to not be swayed by a simple prayer.

Anyone, should all 20 religions get one minute to lead all the fans in attendance in a prayer of their choice at every school sponsored event?

No

 

If any other religion wants to say a prayer that their religion cites then they can do it at the same time.

 

No one said the Lord's Prayer had to be the only prayer, it wasn't said the Lord's Prayer was chosen by the school because they weren't allowed, the cheerleaders just used that prayer and that's all

 

No need to have speerage mins of silence for each religion. The min of silence was not just for Catholics.

 

According to WBTW-TV, the school district received a letter from the ACLU last year, cautioning that school-sanctioned prayer is unconstitutional.

 

 

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

 

And that is what the girls did.

 

The original fire came from the cowardly bullies of the ACLU. They send a threatening letter and expect things to change - under threat. This is not unlike how a mobster works. Broken knees or lawsuit - coercion is coercion. And that is exactly the tactic employed by the ACLU in these cases.

 

Public institutions should respect the members of their community. If local citizens object - then take up the issue. But when the ACLU acts unilaterally - its just an out of state bully usually.