July 16, 201412 yr Author You disagree meaning you believe he meant it to denigrate Jeter? No I don't think he meant to denigrate Jeter, I was disagreeing on the fact that he admitted he grooved one to Jeter is showing a sign of respect.
July 16, 201412 yr I don't have an issue with him throwing a fastball down the middle for Jeter to get a good swing on. It was still a big league fastball, it isn't like he threw it in there at 75 mph or told him it was coming. He should have kept quiet about it though. I do think too much is being made about it though. It isn't a big deal.
July 16, 201412 yr If this was a Reds pitcher that had Done or said this he would have been a hero. For ones that don't see Wainwright on a day to day basis. He is one of the biggest jokester and clowns in the dugout, locker room, and press conferences. He may have grooved one or not but I can see him saying it jokingly about doing and not have really done it.
July 16, 201412 yr Author If this was a Reds pitcher that had Done or said this he would have been a hero. For ones that don't see Wainwright on a day to day basis. He is one of the biggest jokester and clowns in the dugout, locker room, and press conferences. He may have grooved one or not but I can see him saying it jokingly about doing and not have really done it. Not true, and Simon certainly didn't groove any pitches to him when he faced him. Jeter got a hit off him when Simon was trying to get him out, and I'm sure Jeter probably respected that more.
July 16, 201412 yr The sad thing is that this is what's being talked about this morning, instead of the horrid coverage by Fox. No mention of Tony Gwynn or Don Zimmer AT ALL! Freakin' unbelievable. And, if there was nothing done at the game either...then shame on MLB too. At the very least, you could've had a moment of silence or put their pics on the Jumbotron. Instead we get a cover of a Bob Dylan song.
July 16, 201412 yr If this was a Reds pitcher that had Done or said this he would have been a hero. For ones that don't see Wainwright on a day to day basis. He is one of the biggest jokester and clowns in the dugout, locker room, and press conferences. He may have grooved one or not but I can see him saying it jokingly about doing and not have really done it. I'm sure Chapman could groove him a couple and give him a shot at them... I don't care that he did it, I just don't want to hear about the petty unwritten rules of conduct anymore in baseball.
July 16, 201412 yr Not true, and Simon certainly didn't groove any pitches to him when he faced him. Jeter got a hit off him when Simon was trying to get him out, and I'm sure Jeter probably respected that more. I think you are overvaluing how much these guys care about playing in an exhibition game.
July 16, 201412 yr I think you are overvaluing how much these guys care about playing in an exhibition game. Agree. To me this is an exhibition and I hope the new commissioner takes this stupid rule of home field away from the all star game.
July 16, 201412 yr Author I think you are overvaluing how much these guys care about playing in an exhibition game. Perhaps with some, but I'm sure there are some that still want to win badly.
July 16, 201412 yr Not true, and Simon certainly didn't groove any pitches to him when he faced him. Jeter got a hit off him when Simon was trying to get him out, and I'm sure Jeter probably respected that more. And Simon wasn't facing him as the lead off hitter in the 1st inning.
July 16, 201412 yr Author And Simon wasn't facing him as the lead off hitter in the 1st inning. So. It was still Derek Jeter, and it was his last All Star Game AB.
July 16, 201412 yr If this was a Reds pitcher that had Done or said this he would have been a hero. For ones that don't see Wainwright on a day to day basis. He is one of the biggest jokester and clowns in the dugout, locker room, and press conferences. He may have grooved one or not but I can see him saying it jokingly about doing and not have really done it. I think you're missing the point. The consensus is that there was nothing wrong for him grooving one for Jeter to hit. The issue here is Wainwright essentially is taking away the moment from Jeter and putting all the focus on him. If he didn't say anything we'd be talking about how awesome it was for Jeter to go 2-2 in his last all star game. Instead he was an idiot and blabbed about it. When reading the comments, they didn't seem jokingly at all.
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