April 30, 201412 yr Thats the biggest problem IMO. Has to be 100% that guy. And in a lot of cases it is. Here's a post of mine from another thread recently....You okay with those odds? As of 1/1/14, there had been 1,348 executions in the United States since the death penalty started being used. There have also been 130 death row inmates released due to subsequent evidence proving their innocence. That's nearly 1 of every 10. JMO, but a 90% accuracy rate is about 9.999% too low. If we want to look at it another way, the death penalty was 1st used in the late 1970s...Roughly 40 years. That averages out to roughly 3 people sentenced to die each year that are subsequently found to be innocent.
April 30, 201412 yr Author Interesting stance in light of your thread about exonerated inmates. Have you ever looked at any of the statistics on death row exonerations? I believe in it, IF it is the person who is guilty. I can see where you would think my stance is on both sides but it's not. I believe the innocent inmates should be free'd, and I think think people guilty of committing Heinous crimes should be put to death. I totally agree with anyone's stance about innocent inmates on death row, it's likely they will never get justice, which is awful.
April 30, 201412 yr Kinda surprised California still has the death penalty. I wonder if it is a case where it is legal, just never used recently. If Charles Manson wasn't executed, what does it take to be executed in California?? I believe Manson's status among the living is all based on his lack of physical participation in an of the Manson Family murders - he only ordered them to happen.
April 30, 201412 yr Kinda surprised California still has the death penalty. I wonder if it is a case where it is legal, just never used recently. If Charles Manson wasn't executed, what does it take to be executed in California?? Manson was sentenced to death. However, when California abolished the Death Penalty in 1972, his sentence was changed to life in prison. When they reestablished the Death Penalty, Manson's new sentence couldn't be changed.
April 30, 201412 yr Don't see how they botched the execution. The inmate is dead. Reminds me of Paul on The Green Mile.Paul Edgecomb: An execution. A successful one. Hal: How in the name of Christ can you call that a success ? Paul Edgecomb: Eduard Delacroix is dead.
April 30, 201412 yr Manson was sentenced to death. However, when California abolished the Death Penalty in 1972, his sentence was changed to life in prison. When they reestablished the Death Penalty, Manson's new sentence couldn't be changed. That makes sense and that is starting to ring a bell now.
April 30, 201412 yr They stated when the prisoner started to struggle, the prison officials lowered the curtain so the witnesses would not see what was going on. While I assume the primary reason for witnesses is to allow the family of the victim to witness, isn't one of the reasons that witnesses are used in executions is to provide some degree of reliability that the inmate is not executed in cruel and unusual manner? If the prison officials can block off their view, that sort of defeats that purpose.
April 30, 201412 yr Here's a post of mine from another thread recently....You okay with those odds? As of 1/1/14, there had been 1,348 executions in the United States since the death penalty started being used. There have also been 130 death row inmates released due to subsequent evidence proving their innocence. That's nearly 1 of every 10. JMO, but a 90% accuracy rate is about 9.999% too low. If we want to look at it another way, the death penalty was 1st used in the late 1970s...Roughly 40 years. That averages out to roughly 3 people sentenced to die each year that are subsequently found to be innocent. There are undoubtedly some alarming statistics & that is why I do have reservations about capital punishment. But this case seems very open & shut. Man convicted of woman's death | Amarillo.com | Amarillo Globe-News Neiman's body was found in a shallow grave along a dirt road near Tonkawa. One of the suspects led police to the body.
April 30, 201412 yr Manson was sentenced to death. However, when California abolished the Death Penalty in 1972, his sentence was changed to life in prison. When they reestablished the Death Penalty, Manson's new sentence couldn't be changed. Right you are. I stand corrected.
April 30, 201412 yr Nope...just three in Kentucky: Harold McQueen, Jr. was executed in the electric chair on July 1, 1997. Edward L. Harper Jr. was executed by lethal injection on May 25, 1999. Marco Allen Chapman was executed by lethal injection on November 21, 2008. U.S. Executions Since 1976 (Statistics Through April 1, 2014) I knew him, and I can assure you he got what he deserved, deserved what he got.
April 30, 201412 yr Have not read any of these replies but speaking as RPh I cant see how we cant overdose a human successfully . People are put under for surgery by the 10's of thousands every day and very little problems arise . Why cant they sedate one prisoner and shoot a bolus of Kcl to stop the heart ?
April 30, 201412 yr Here's a post of mine from another thread recently....You okay with those odds? As of 1/1/14, there had been 1,348 executions in the United States since the death penalty started being used. There have also been 130 death row inmates released due to subsequent evidence proving their innocence. That's nearly 1 of every 10. JMO, but a 90% accuracy rate is about 9.999% too low. If we want to look at it another way, the death penalty was 1st used in the late 1970s...Roughly 40 years. That averages out to roughly 3 people sentenced to die each year that are subsequently found to be innocent. I dont disagree with you one bit. I agree, it would have to be 100% for me to do it.
April 30, 201412 yr They stated when the prisoner started to struggle, the prison officials lowered the curtain so the witnesses would not see what was going on. While I assume the primary reason for witnesses is to allow the family of the victim to witness, isn't one of the reasons that witnesses are used in executions is to provide some degree of reliability that the inmate is not executed in cruel and unusual manner? If the prison officials can block off their view, that sort of defeats that purpose. I think they did that so they could hit him in the head with a hammer.
April 30, 201412 yr I dont disagree with you one bit. I agree, it would have to be 100% for me to do it. Short of having a video of the crime how can you be 100%?
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