Now that this is an option. It has been talked about it in other threads, Does Beechwood play up to 2A or stay in 1A?

 

I don't see why they should personally.

I think it would be good to allow schools to play up two classes if they choose to do so. The only schools that would consider doing it would Highlands, CovCath, and such. It would be great to see these powers in 6a football.

Lots of 5A schools would be wise to play 6A. Ohio County, Greenwood, Logan County, Barren County, Grayson County, Apollo. What would that do to the balance if 40 teams are in 6A?

Teams should play in their class, unless moving up to play good competition in their local Geographical region. In the past, CCH and Highlands both played up to 5A to reduce travel and play some very good distrit competition. I am a CovCath fan and would prefer to stay in class and face Highlands than to petition to move up to "get away" from playing the Birds. Moving up to get a shot at a state title is just plain ridiculous.

With that said, I hope the CCH administration stays in the appropriate class unless we can keep the birds and pickup say Dixie, Connor and a couple other good local teams for our district. Go Colonels.

Lots of 5A schools would be wise to play 6A. Ohio County, Greenwood, Logan County, Barren County, Grayson County, Apollo. What would that do to the balance if 40 teams are in 6A?

 

An excellent question. Apply that to any class, really. If a team elected to play up from 1A would the KHSAA have to take it a step further and compel a team from 2A to drop to maintain 32 teams? What would they do if a mass exodus in any class left them with a shortage and a team didn't want to move down? And reiterate an earlier question of mine, if the bottom team did not want to move down and multiple teams had moved into the class, would the next lowest team(s) be given the option even though if they moved down they would be a larger team in a lower class than a team properly placed in a higher one - seemingly violating the tenant the KHSAA has long held that playing down would place a different standard of enrollment on one team than the other 200+ schools in the state.

Now that this is an option. It has been talked about it in other threads, Does Beechwood play up to 2A or stay in 1A?

 

I think they go to 2A.

This thread could get long. I see a lot of angles to discuss with this allowance of moving up voluntarily.

 

1. If 5 schools want to move up from one class, does that mean the bottom 5 in the higher class get the option to move down?

 

2. How far up the enrollment ranks will the KHSAA go to ask a team about moving down if none of the schools below them in enrollment want to drop? Could the 10th smallest school be allowed to move down if the other 9 below them all want to stay in class?

 

3. If none of the bottom 5 want to move down, what happens to the lower class? Will there be byes in the playoffs if a class is low in numbers?

 

4. Conversely, if a class gets very large, I assume that means more teams will not qualify for the playoffs in that class.

 

5. How will 1A and 6A be handled with the set 32 team number? Is that no longer in effect? Could 6A end up with 40 teams and/or 1A with 25?

 

6. Will teams collude with each other about moving up and/or moving down? Or will they be hush hush (e.g. Highlands) so teams will not change classes to avoid them?

 

Those are a few questions that come immediately to mind with this new approach by the KHSAA.

Now that this is an option. It has been talked about it in other threads, Does Beechwood play up to 2A or stay in 1A?

 

I think they stay in 1A so that they can get back to winning championships on a regular basis. I don't think they want to play NCC and Mayfield to win a title.

Because Geographic issues do not play into the decision to move up or not, I can see this possibly hurting some classes and districts big time.

For instance, as someone mentioned earlier, what if 2 teams for instance in a 4 team district move up and no other schools in the area move down or up to fill those 2 spots. You are now stuck with a 2 team district unless you force those 2 teams to have to travel long distances just to compete in another district which isn't really fair to those 2 schools.

 

 

I think personally, the only way a team can move up is if it does not disrupt the district they are currently in by leaving them with 3 or less teams. Some may not like that idea, but what is wrong with playing in your class that your size of male enrollment states? I have no problem with a team moving up as long as it doesn't destroy their previous district to where there aren't enough teams.

I think it would be good to allow schools to play up two classes if they choose to do so. The only schools that would consider doing it would Highlands, CovCath, and such. It would be great to see these powers in 6a football.

 

Seeing Cov Cath and Highlands both playing in 6A would mean a move up 3 class sizes for Highlands and 1 to 2 class sizes for Cov Cath. Reading that news release, it didn't look like the KHSAA stipulated whether or not teams could play multiple class sizes above their size-designated classification (e.g. - moving up from 3A to 5A). Is that the case, or are they only intending to allow teams to move up by one classification size?

 

Also, are there any teams that would realistically want to move up multiple class sizes? I can't help but wonder, why in the world would Highlands and Cov Cath want to move up to 6A when 4A and 5A are much more suited for them? Why would Highlands, with its ~425 students, and Cov Cath with its ~550 students want to pit themselves against teams like St. X (~1400 students), Trinity (~1300), Scott County (~1200) and Henry Clay (~1100)?

I think they stay in 1A so that they can get back to winning championships on a regular basis. I don't think they want to play NCC and Mayfield to win a title.

 

This.

 

Beechwood would be dumb to move up.

Because Geographic issues do not play into the decision to move up or not, I can see this possibly hurting some classes and districts big time.

For instance, as someone mentioned earlier, what if 2 teams for instance in a 4 team district move up and no other schools in the area move down or up to fill those 2 spots. You are now stuck with a 2 team district unless you force those 2 teams to have to travel long distances just to compete in another district which isn't really fair to those 2 schools.

 

 

I think personally, the only way a team can move up is if it does not disrupt the district they are currently in by leaving them with 3 or less teams. Some may not like that idea, but what is wrong with playing in your class that your size of male enrollment states? I have no problem with a team moving up as long as it doesn't destroy their previous district to where there aren't enough teams.

 

My guess would be that they get all the moving up or down taken care of first and then they assign teams to districts starting in the west and moving east.

Seeing Cov Cath and Highlands both playing in 6A would mean a move up 3 class sizes for Highlands and 1 to 2 class sizes for Cov Cath. Reading that news release, it didn't look like the KHSAA stipulated whether or not teams could play multiple class sizes above their size-designated classification (e.g. - moving up from 3A to 5A). Is that the case, or are they only intending to allow teams to move up by one classification size?

 

Also, are there any teams that would realistically want to move up multiple class sizes? I can't help but wonder, why in the world would Highlands and Cov Cath want to move up to 6A when 4A and 5A are much more suited for them? Why would Highlands, with its ~425 students, and Cov Cath with its ~550 students want to pit themselves against teams like St. X (~1400 students), Trinity (~1300), Scott County (~1200) and Henry Clay (~1100)?

 

Both schools actually have 4A enrollments now, so it would represent a 2 class move for both Highlands and CovCath. I agree, it's not a realistic proposition for either. I personally would expect them to both stay in 4A unless they got wind that the entirety of the NKY district was leaving, in which case they might attempt to move up to prevent being put on an island.

Both schools actually have 4A enrollments now, so it would represent a 2 class move for both Highlands and CovCath. I agree, it's not a realistic proposition for either. I personally would expect them to both stay in 4A unless they got wind that the entirety of the NKY district was leaving, in which case they might attempt to move up to prevent being put on an island.

 

Agreed with everything you said.

 

For what it's worth....I thought Highlands was 3A and played up in 4A, but that could be wrong. You certainly appear to have a more comprehensive knowledge of the classification system than I do. :notworthy:

Agreed with everything you said.

 

For what it's worth....I thought Highlands was 3A and played up in 4A, but that could be wrong. You certainly appear to have a more comprehensive knowledge of the classification system than I do. :notworthy:

 

That was the case for Highlands when they first implemented the six class system. They were actually the largest of the 3A schools, and chose to play up to 5A along with CovCath, which was more in the middle of 4A. (The numbers from that alignment - https://web.archive.org/web/20070928071409/http://www.khsaa.org/football/realignment/schoolenrollmentandnotesuseforrealignment.pdf)

 

As of the last alignment, Highlands was actually in the class they were meant to be in, as the single smallest school slotted for 4A. Their enrollment has continued to increase (420 males in 2010/11 compared with 496 this current year), and they are now close to midsection of my projected 4A numbers.