November 7, 201312 yr So if people are starting to support Richie, I guess the question is becoming why is he suspended? Is he still 100% done with the Dolphins as some outlets claimed early on in the week?
November 7, 201312 yr Author Martin is softer than double-ply Charmin. I don't know if I necessarily agree. Going through the channels people would go through in any other profession seems more reasonable than doing something really stupid once you've reached your breaking point. What if he felt like the only way he could deal with it was to pull a Gilbert Arenas and bring a gun into the locker room? Certainly not saying that would have been right, just saying that if the alternative in his mind is that, then staying away from the facility to cool his jets is very reasonable.
November 7, 201312 yr I don't know if I necessarily agree. Going through the channels people would go through in any other profession seems more reasonable than doing something really stupid once you've reached your breaking point. What if he felt like the only way he could deal with it was to pull a Gilbert Arenas and bring a gun into the locker room? Certainly not saying that would have been right, just saying that if the alternative in his mind is that, then staying away from the facility to cool his jets is very reasonable. Again soft. Either report to superiors or stand up for yourself. Football lockerroom isn't like the rest of our jobs. Confrontation happens. It's very simple if I didn't want to pay for something I wouldn't.
November 7, 201312 yr So if people are starting to support Richie, I guess the question is becoming why is he suspended? Is he still 100% done with the Dolphins as some outlets claimed early on in the week? I don't support Richie he sounds like a jerk. I'm just against making Martin look like some vicitim we should all feel sorry for.
November 7, 201312 yr Richie seems to have several friends on the team supporting him. I wonder if Martin knew full well if he took such action against Ritchie that with these friends of Ritchie's, it would not have been one on one but instead twelve on one and he would have gotten pummeled? Not saying that is the case but just wondering. With the testosterone driven, mucho Oscar Mayer Bologna attitude on NFL teams I could see a pack mentality forming where the quieter, more introverted guys could be targets. Seems like that would break the code to have a 12 on 1 fight. I am speculating that the code is taken very seriously in NFL locker rooms.
November 7, 201312 yr I don't know if I necessarily agree. Going through the channels people would go through in any other profession seems more reasonable than doing something really stupid once you've reached your breaking point. What if he felt like the only way he could deal with it was to pull a Gilbert Arenas and bring a gun into the locker room? Certainly not saying that would have been right, just saying that if the alternative in his mind is that, then staying away from the facility to cool his jets is very reasonable. The NFL locker room is not nor should ever be treated as any other profession. It seems it has its own rules and codes and if you can't follow them then you shouldn't play. That seems to be the common theme from football players speaking out on the matter of how to handle things properly in the locker room.
November 7, 201312 yr The NFL locker room is not nor should ever be treated as any other profession. It seems it has its own rules and codes and if you can't follow them then you shouldn't play. That seems to be the common theme from football players speaking out on the matter of how to handle things properly in the locker room. Exactly in most other proffesions new hires are taking the team out for a 4-5 figure dinner bill. That would be theft. But it is a common practice in proffesional sports. I'm not excusing what Richie did. But I can't understand how anyone who played competitive sports could not have a problem with how Martin has handled this situation.
November 7, 201312 yr Interesting how the story is now spinning in support of Incognito. I don't think it's interesting at all. It was only a matter of time. Want to know what the NFL spin machine is capable of... just look at how they've handled head injuries for decades now. If a guy leaves a team showing signs of depression... the team should probably look into that... given that FORMER PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS KILL THEMSELVES AT AN INORDINATELY HIGH RATE. I couldn't care any less about Incognito. But what the football spin machine turned this into was to attack Martin for being soft or for being a coward. Count me out.
November 7, 201312 yr I don't support Richie he sounds like a jerk. I'm just against making Martin look like some vicitim we should all feel sorry for. But being a jerk is not something you should suspend a guy for. If Martin is not a victim here, then it stands to reason that Incognito did not victimize him - so why would he be suspended or done with the team?
November 7, 201312 yr But being a jerk is not something you should suspend a guy for. If Martin is not a victim here, then it stands to reason that Incognito did not victimize him - so why would he be suspended or done with the team? PR very simple.
November 8, 201312 yr Author Again soft. Either report to superiors or stand up for yourself. Football lockerroom isn't like the rest of our jobs. Confrontation happens. It's very simple if I didn't want to pay for something I wouldn't. So telling the team you need a leave and taking it isn't reporting it to superiors. I'm guessing that wasn't the first mention of some problems. I'm just saying I don't blame him for assessing the situation and cooling off instead of going into the locker room and doing something stupid. So he walks into the locker room and just sucker punches Incognito, whose a team captain. If that's how it goes down, we may be reading about "Rookie Martin Cut After Punching Teammate" and he's looking for a job while everyone second guessing the situation is talking about how stupid it was of him to do something like that. I don't feel sorry for Richie Incognito. He's a dirty player who has a history of trouble and most of those outside the situation who look at it objectively are saying they aren't surprised.
November 8, 201312 yr As I said earlier, Incognito is a jerk. Aventura police: Dolphins' Richie Incognito harassed golf volunteer | Sports - Home Edited November 8, 201312 yr by PurplePride92
November 8, 201312 yr I think all you macho men and your workplace violence need to take a step back. Maybe Martin has depression or other mental problems. A guy who worked hard enough to make the NFL is not going to walk away without a reason. Incognito, on the other hand has "roid " rage. Speaking for women, we like the NFL, but this behavior is a black eye.
November 8, 201312 yr Incognito is a scum bag and Martin is a 300lb cry baby. The fact that this story has owned the news cycle since it started is a joke.
November 8, 201312 yr There has to be more to this. I feel like some info will eventually come out and make people realize how bad teammates were towards Martin. Also for some reason there seems to be a front the Dolphins organization is putting up. There is no way every single Dolphin could defend what happened in there. Incognito may be the scapegoat as well.
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