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Jonathon Martin & Richie Incognito

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Who is advocating violence?

 

You and Lipton are two that come to mind. You guys keep saying "confront him". Do you guys really not know how bullying works? He confronts him, it's 100% ending in a fight. It'd do a lot more harm for Martin than good.

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Serious question if what Richie was doing was so out of line of what happens in every other NFL locker room why didn't one other player step in?

 

Because they are all non-Stanford educated morons. Remember?

Yeah, let's believe the guy who sexually harasses women.

 

See how he just tied two unrelated issues together, to try and prove a point. LOL .

Serious question if what Richie was doing was so out of line of what happens in every other NFL locker room why didn't one other player step in?

 

There's been lots of players in other locker rooms that have said what Richie was doing was completely over the line, and doesn't go on elsewhere.

 

Same reason the kid in middle school who's getting bullied never has anyone stand up for them. They'd rather ignore it than risk being another victim.

You and Lipton are two that come to mind. You guys keep saying "confront him". Do you guys really not know how bullying works? He confronts him, it's 100% ending in a fight. It'd do a lot more harm for Martin than good.

 

Well since obvisously you don't advocate standing up for yourself and apparently were a door mat growing up. Let me tell you from experience. In most cases in lockerroom confronting may mean you get in someones face but rarley does it result in any serious violence. Normally the rest of the team respects the player for standing up for himself and step in before things get to serious.

Because they are all non-Stanford educated morons. Remember?

 

Actually, not too far off. I'd say 95% if not more of people that play high division 1 college football and NFL football are for lack of a better term, morons. You have to be either crazy or stupid to play football beyond the high school level. JMO.

There's been lots of players in other locker rooms that have said what Richie was doing was completely over the line, and doesn't go on elsewhere.

 

Same reason the kid in middle school who's getting bullied never has anyone stand up for them. They'd rather ignore it than risk being another victim.

 

I don't care what players who weren't in the lockerroom are saying . I'm asking about the other 51 players in Miami.

You and Lipton are two that come to mind. You guys keep saying "confront him". Do you guys really not know how bullying works? He confronts him, it's 100% ending in a fight. It'd do a lot more harm for Martin than good.

 

I just don't see how more harm than good can come from standing up for yourself. Funny though, a little girl stood up for herself over a number and you couldn't believe that. Now a grown man......A GROWN MAN won't stand up for himself and you advocate that.

 

Makes sense actually.........at least you're consistent. Nobody should stand up for anything. Just sit there and take it. Or go tell the owners who don't care about their players at the end of the day anyways. Yeah, makes all kinds of sense.

Well since obvisously you don't advocate standing up for yourself and apparently were a door mat growing up. Let me tell you from experience. In most cases in lockerroom confronting may mean you get in someones face but rarley does it result in any serious violence. Normally the rest of the team respects the player for standing up for himself and step in before things get to serious.

 

Personal attacks usually mean you have nothing more to add to the discussion. It appears you've reached that point.

Same reason the kid in middle school who's getting bullied never has anyone stand up for them. They'd rather ignore it than risk being another victim.

 

I don't even think it's that. It's about a culture that says that this behavior is not only acceptable... it's necessary. This isn't schoolyard bullying, it's something else. And whatever it is, it's unacceptable for grown men, whatever their job is.

There's been lots of players in other locker rooms that have said what Richie was doing was completely over the line, and doesn't go on elsewhere.

 

Same reason the kid in middle school who's getting bullied never has anyone stand up for them. They'd rather ignore it than risk being another victim.

 

 

You can't compare middle school aged kids to grown men. That's where you misconstrue the whole concept of bullying. Any ADULT who allows another adult to bully them is getting what they deserve. You better act like you are grown.

Actually, not too far off. I'd say 95% if not more of people that play high division 1 college football and NFL football are for lack of a better term, morons. You have to be either crazy or stupid to play football beyond the high school level. JMO.

 

See nothing like advancing society by mocking people you don't even know. Barbaric people like

PP92 and myself are old school and won't judge someones intelligence without knowledge of it.

I just don't see how more harm than good can come from standing up for yourself. Funny though, a little girl stood up for herself over a number and you couldn't believe that. Now a grown man......A GROWN MAN won't stand up for himself and you advocate that.

 

Makes sense actually.........at least you're consistent. Nobody should stand up for anything. Just sit there and take it. Or go tell the owners who don't care about their players at the end of the day anyways. Yeah, makes all kinds of sense.

 

You had the same point of view as me on the CC runner. I also said I admired her for standing up for her beliefs, simply I thought they were silly. Standing up for a religious belief during a race is not even in the same realm as standing up to a bully and getting your butt kicked, then having the bullying intensify. What good does that do?

I don't even think it's that. It's about a culture that says that this behavior is not only acceptable... it's necessary. This isn't schoolyard bullying, it's something else. And whatever it is, it's unacceptable for grown men, whatever their job is.

 

Don't tell that to PP92 or Lipton....They're advocating it.

I just don't see how more harm than good can come from standing up for yourself. Funny though, a little girl stood up for herself over a number and you couldn't believe that. Now a grown man......A GROWN MAN won't stand up for himself and you advocate that.

 

Makes sense actually.........at least you're consistent. Nobody should stand up for anything. Just sit there and take it. Or go tell the owners who don't care about their players at the end of the day anyways. Yeah, makes all kinds of sense.

 

He may be shocked by us but I guarantee you I'm way more appalled by his advocating a lack of backbone.

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