November 8, 201312 yr Anyone defending him should read this piece that lays out his history of bullying and entitled behavior. So you're saying he's always bullied and picked on the quiet ones? The ones he knew wouldn't fight back? Wow, no one could've ever seen this coming!
November 8, 201312 yr Here's a conundrum to me....how can people condemn Johnny Football's behavior, yet condone Incognito's?
November 8, 201312 yr Fantastic article from Grantland... http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9939308/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-miami-dolphins-bullying-scandal?fb_action_ids=10151800821712956&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[319737611499546]&action_type_map=[%22og.recommends%22]&action_ref_map=[] Warriors make war on warriors. There's no room for crying in this game. You have a problem, you handle it on the field. Handle it as a man. Go down swinging. I hear you, NFL, and that's why I'm not here to move you or persuade you. If you have a penis and feelings, you'd better cut one of them off. I'm here to start a fight. Because this — this idea that Jonathan Martin is a weakling for seeking emotional help — this is some room-temperature faux-macho alpha-pansy nonsense, and I am here to beat it bloody and leave it on the ground. Every writer who's spreading this around, directly or by implication; every player who's reaction-bragging about his own phenomenal hardness; every pundit in a square suit who's braying about the unwritten code of the locker room — every one of these guys should be ashamed of himself, and that's it, and it's not a complicated story. Let's put some things in context, shall we? We're lucky in this regard, because it's actually fairly easy to put mental-health issues in context in a league whose retirees have a disproportionate tendency to shoot themselves to death. Former Chargers DB Paul Oliver is the most recent. He killed himself in late September at the ripe old age of 29. In 2012, four players or ex-players committed suicide in eight months, including 25-year-old Titans receiver O.J. Murdock, beloved Chargers icon Junior Seau, and Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, who — maybe you vaguely remember this — shot himself in the parking lot of the Chiefs' practice facility after murdering his girlfriend in front of his 3-month-old daughter. There will always be locker-room buttholes. They should be curtailed. And when a player says he needs time off for mental reasons — again: in a sport with a suicide problem — it shouldn't spark a national conversation on whether he's soft. Edited November 8, 201312 yr by PurplePride92
November 8, 201312 yr Here's a conundrum to me....how can people condemn Johnny Football's behavior, yet condone Incognito's? I have yet to see anyone condone Incognito's behavior.
November 9, 201312 yr I have yet to see anyone condone Incognito's behavior. Surely you jest? Throughout this thread are posts basically blaming Martin for what happened to him, which is tacit condoning of Incognito's behavior. There are posts saying it's OK because it's football. That, again, is tacit condoing. And there are some much more direct comments absolving Incognito.
November 9, 201312 yr Here's a conundrum to me....how can people condemn Johnny Football's behavior, yet condone Incognito's? I love Johnny Football.
November 9, 201312 yr Surely you jest? Throughout this thread are posts basically blaming Martin for what happened to him, which is tacit condoning of Incognito's behavior. There are posts saying it's OK because it's football. That, again, is tacit condoing. And there are some much more direct comments absolving Incognito. Must of been reading another topic. I condemned Richie . But I also condemned Martin for how he handled it.
November 9, 201312 yr Must of been reading another topic. I condemned Richie . But I also condemned Martin for how he handled it. Nope. Reading this topic.
November 9, 201312 yr Nope. Reading this topic. I disagree because if you're reading this thread show me one post that condones what Richie did.
November 9, 201312 yr I disagree because if you're reading this thread show me one post that condones what Richie did. By excusing his behavior as acceptable because his job is football... By saying Martin is at fault because he is a football player and was "soft" for walking away... By promoting violence as a valid method of conflict resolution... Tacitly condoning
November 9, 201312 yr By excusing his behavior as acceptable because his job is football... By saying Martin is at fault because he is a football player and was "soft" for walking away... By promoting violence as a valid method of conflict resolution... Tacitly condoning Jonathon Martin condoned more than any of us have. And again, please don't confuse standing up for yourself with promoting violence as a valid method of conflict resolution. So many people on here keep missing that.
November 9, 201312 yr @FakeSportsCentr: Jonathan Martin reportedly upset by the way Stanford treated Oregon
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