He broke the codes. He broke the locker room code. He broke the football code and he broke the man code.

 

Right, because men are taught to solve their problems with their fists, right? Guys have a disagreement and the only "manly" way to solve it is to fight.

 

What could he have done differently to end it?

Answer the question. What should he have done to "deal with it"?

 

 

That's simple. Stand up for himself. Holy crap how do you miss that in all of this? He stood there and took it. Soft.

Right, because men are taught to solve their problems with their fists, right? Guys have a disagreement and the only "manly" way to solve it is to fight.

 

What could he have done differently to end it?

 

 

He NEVER should have gone to the media and he shouldn't have ran away from the lunch table like Red did in Friday when Deebo snatched his chain.

 

 

I bet he cried in the car too.

That's simple. Stand up for himself. Holy crap how do you miss that in all of this? He stood there and took it. Soft.

 

So, getting his butt kicked and having the bullying intensify is the way to end it? Stop taking such a barbaric approach to it.

But at the end of the day the day its pretty apparent that hazing is an NFL tradition. Maybe just maybe he should of just took it and earned the respect of his peers.

 

Yes, everything that ever has been should stay the way it is because it's tradition.

 

Tradition is for church and Christmas dinner.

 

Chuck it for everything else.

 

"Because that's the way it is" is not an acceptable reason. You say it's just the way it is because that's what locker rooms are like.

 

And it's never crossed your mind that the locker room culture is part of the problem, then?

He NEVER should have gone to the media and he shouldn't have ran away from the lunch table like Red did in Friday when Deebo snatched his chain.

 

 

I bet he cried in the car too.

 

He went to ownership. They did nothing.

So bullying is allowed in the NFL, but not at Lipton's job?

 

If you don't see the difference between an NFL locker room and what most of us do for a living then we are worlds apart.

Right because violence is the answer. That's what we should be teaching our children. Someone's picking on you, go fight 'em. Unbelievable.

 

Standing up for yourself is a valuable lesson. You can't protect children for ever because then they grow up into adults like Martin who want other people to solve his problems for him.

So, getting his butt kicked and having the bullying intensify is the way to end it? Stop taking such a barbaric approach to it.

 

 

:lol:

 

Because football isn't a barbaric sport......:lol: :lol:

He went to ownership. They did nothing.

 

My thoughts. Here clearly is okay with not playing in the NFL so he should've taken it to the NFLPA. If they trade him and someone else takes him, he's fine. If no one wants him because he broke the code, he was willing to be out of the game anyway.

 

If the NFLPA doesn't do anything then he sues...

Right, because men are taught to solve their problems with their fists, right? Guys have a disagreement and the only "manly" way to solve it is to fight.

 

What could he have done differently to end it?

 

If it leads to that sure. Confronting doesn't always mean physical. It means standing your ground.

So, getting his butt kicked and having the bullying intensify is the way to end it? Stop taking such a barbaric approach to it.

 

I guarantee you if he stood up to him he would of gained a lot of respect in that lockerroom. Somtimes in life we get knocked down.

 

LOL I new someone would say it "barbaric". It's called not being soft.

I think I'm starting to understand why society is in such a terrible state. Grown men advocating violence as a solution to our disagreements and issues. No wonder we see so many young boys/men shooting up places and killing their teachers and fellow students. We're feeding them this barbaric idea that the way to handle problems is through fighting and proving who's more macho. I really had thought we'd advanced based this stage as a society, guess I was wrong.

He went to ownership. They did nothing.

 

Did he ever tell Richie to stop? We see reports on everything that has happened. I have yet to see a report that says he told Richie to quit and to leave him alone. No, he still talked to Richie and played alongside of Richie and even had some members of the team believing he and Richie were best friends. Too many conflitcing stories and I am not going to believe the guy who refused to stand up for himself. We aren't talking about kids. There is nothing more disturbing than an adult who allows another adult to have complete and totla control over them like you believe Richie did to poor lil Jon. Jon is a weak minded man. Period.

Yes, everything that ever has been should stay the way it is because it's tradition.

 

Tradition is for church and Christmas dinner.

 

Chuck it for everything else.

 

"Because that's the way it is" is not an acceptable reason. You say it's just the way it is because that's what locker rooms are like.

 

And it's never crossed your mind that the locker room culture is part of the problem, then?

 

Nope. I know the PC world would like to believe so. The lockerroom culture builds character and trust.