KHSAA is a joke anymore...

Not sure if this has been asked...

 

When the the "line up and shake the other team's hand" tradition begin? It wasn't around when I played.

Where in the KHSAA handbook did it say post game handshakes were mandatory? I

 

I just asked someone that exact same question tonight.

Julian added this update at 4:00 today.

 

 

“It is sad that so many have apparently chosen to read small participles of the note above, versus the entirety of the directive and reminder, so I feel the necessity to add specific comments. And admittedly, two totally related paragraphs were not immediately adjacent and that may have caused some people to stop reading at one point, and then not follow through with the rest of the post. While none of the content main material has changed, putting the lines together about both the basics and the option for schools to continue whatever activity provided it is properly supervised. The word “directive” has as one of its meanings/synonyms, “prescription”, which is a recommendation from authority. Clearly this was intended to be at a higher level than simply a recommendation, but not a ban or prohibition, relying on the member school representatives to make appropriate decisions.

 

Nothing about this directive is etched in stone as far as post game procedures. As the document states, the schools continue to have the option to have postgame handshakes as always, provided they are properly supervised. That was the first part of two main intentions. The first, was to reinforce the requirement for supervision. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, all involved in contests seem to be more aggressive immediately after the contests are concluded and winning with honor and dignity (and losing the same way) doesn’t seem to be being instilled across the board. Sometimes, these attitudes and lack of supervision have resulted in fights/altercations/incidents during postgame periods. In Kentucky alone, this has happened more than two dozen times in the last three years. So the directive to the member schools is simple. Don’t do it, UNLESS you can properly supervise it. And if you don’t supervise it (or if you do and problems occur) then you will be held accountable.

 

Secondly, and just as critical, don’t expect the officials to police this time period. That has NEVER been the officials’ job at the high school level, and shouldn’t be now.

 

It’s really that simple. Sportsmanship and civility remain hallmark values. It is my hope that all schools can provide the proper supervision and accountability to continue these types of activities. But if they can’t, then stop doing them.”

I say stop doing them. Let the ones who want to shake hands go do so. That handshake means absolutely nothing to a majority of those shaking hands and it has no effect on their adult life as well.

Actually......isn't a "directive" from KHSAA the same as a mandate to the "officials?"

 

So how do you show respect to the officials if they are required to immediately leave after the game?

JCPS will probably vote to shake everyone's hands except the Shamrocks!:lol2:

Coaches always spout that flak that they are trying to teach youngsters how to be good adults. What better way than to have their team spend 1-3 minutes after contest honoring and congratulating their opponents for a game well contested. If players can't do this, then maybe the players should not play interscholastic sports. If a coach can't keep his players under control after a game during a round of handshakes, then maybe he should not be a coach.

Julian added this update at 4:00 today.

 

 

“It is sad that so many have apparently chosen to read small participles of the note above, versus the entirety of the directive and reminder, so I feel the necessity to add specific comments. And admittedly, two totally related paragraphs were not immediately adjacent and that may have caused some people to stop reading at one point, and then not follow through with the rest of the post. While none of the content main material has changed, putting the lines together about both the basics and the option for schools to continue whatever activity provided it is properly supervised. The word “directive” has as one of its meanings/synonyms, “prescription”, which is a recommendation from authority. Clearly this was intended to be at a higher level than simply a recommendation, but not a ban or prohibition, relying on the member school representatives to make appropriate decisions.

 

Nothing about this directive is etched in stone as far as post game procedures. As the document states, the schools continue to have the option to have postgame handshakes as always, provided they are properly supervised. That was the first part of two main intentions. The first, was to reinforce the requirement for supervision. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, all involved in contests seem to be more aggressive immediately after the contests are concluded and winning with honor and dignity (and losing the same way) doesn’t seem to be being instilled across the board. Sometimes, these attitudes and lack of supervision have resulted in fights/altercations/incidents during postgame periods. In Kentucky alone, this has happened more than two dozen times in the last three years. So the directive to the member schools is simple. Don’t do it, UNLESS you can properly supervise it. And if you don’t supervise it (or if you do and problems occur) then you will be held accountable.

 

Secondly, and just as critical, don’t expect the officials to police this time period. That has NEVER been the officials’ job at the high school level, and shouldn’t be now.

 

It’s really that simple. Sportsmanship and civility remain hallmark values. It is my hope that all schools can provide the proper supervision and accountability to continue these types of activities. But if they can’t, then stop doing them.”

In other words, Julian's meaning of the word "directive" is like a rolling stop at an intersection. You kinda stopped, maybe just slowed down, but an effort was made.

 

The first statement wasn't the best-worded article to come from the KHSAA and it appeared rushed so it could be released before the soccer postseason begins next week.

Coaches always spout that flak that they are trying to teach youngsters how to be good adults. What better way than to have their team spend 1-3 minutes after contest honoring and congratulating their opponents for a game well contested. If players can't do this, then maybe the players should not play interscholastic sports. If a coach can't keep his players under control after a game during a round of handshakes, then maybe he should not be a coach.

 

 

By that stance teachers with unruly students shouldn't be a teacher then?

Hell, Tom Duffy never shook hands while at Highlands...LOL

 

Talk about a visionary.

Well the coaches and players at the NewCath/Newport volleyball game tonight DIDN'T get the memo. There were hand shakes a plenty. :dancingpa

 

Sooooo, what will the KHSAA levy as the penatly for these godforsaken handshakes?

 

I hope it is $ fines, this way they will make plenty of money off of the sportsmen/sportswomen:thumb:

I say stop doing them. Let the ones who want to shake hands go do so. That handshake means absolutely nothing to a majority of those shaking hands and it has no effect on their adult life as well.

 

THIS!!! I agree 100%. The majority are nothing more than "lemmings" following the others through the line, while some do it out of actual sincerity.

I say stop doing them. Let the ones who want to shake hands go do so. That handshake means absolutely nothing to a majority of those shaking hands and it has no effect on their adult life as well.

 

Disagree completely. Sports is a great tool and resource for young adults to learn many things, such as developing a work ethic, team work, how to succeed at something, and even how to fail at something. It has gotten much worst in today's younger generation at not knowing how to handle success and failure, because kids these days are given so much without having to earn it. Sports can be used to teach them how to handle success, and how to handle failing. A simple thing such as shaking hands after a game does help some, it helps at teaching kids on how to still respect the others after winning and be man enough to shake someones hand still after giving it your all and coming up a little short. That is life we all are going to succeed and fail at many things, and we can take a simple thing like shaking hands for granted. However little things like that does help.

 

Yes for some kids that won't help one way or another, but for a lot of people little things like that does add up in helping teach certain values in life.

Disagree completely. Sports is a great tool and resource for young adults to learn many things, such as developing a work ethic, team work, how to succeed at something, and even how to fail at something. It has gotten much worst in today's younger generation at not knowing how to handle success and failure, because kids these days are given so much without having to earn it. Sports can be used to teach them how to handle success, and how to handle failing. A simple thing such as shaking hands after a game does help some, it helps at teaching kids on how to still respect the others after winning and be man enough to shake someones hand still after giving it your all and coming up a little short. That is life we all are going to succeed and fail at many things, and we can take a simple thing like shaking hands for granted. However little things like that does help.

 

Yes for some kids that won't help one way or another, but for a lot of people little things like that does add up in helping teach certain values in life.

 

Maybe, as I stated earlier I am more concerned with my kid's behavior during the game. I also don't want my kid to think any less of a another kid that may not want ot shake hands with him after a game. Everyone is different and everyone handles situations differently as well. I agree the sports teaches kids a ton of things useful to their adult life. The post game handshake isn't one of those things IMO.

 

For example, after an intense meeting with the company over whether or not they should put up apprenticeship bids instead of allowing outside contractors to come in and take our work I am not going to shake hands with them when I leave that meeting with a loss. Or should I shake hands with them because that's what I was taught after my tee ball games?