May 17, 201313 yr Let's use a hypothetical...........what if he/she was charged and found guilty of receiving stolen property and possession of illicit drugs? Should they keep their privilege of being part of a team?
May 17, 201313 yr Never thought about it really. Not that felonies don't happen by high schoolers, just that I never thought about them being involved in athletics. Doc what about the Ramsey home in Boyd Co. Not that they were felonies, but I know they have had players from there.
May 17, 201313 yr Wouldn't they go to Juvenile Jail or something like that? The court system in KY is very lenient on juvenile offenders. Usually it is a revolving door in and out of court.
May 17, 201313 yr Let's use a hypothetical...........what if he/she was charged and found guilty of receiving stolen property and possession of illicit drugs? Should they keep their privilege of being part of a team? If it was committed on school grounds then I say absolutely not. If it wasn't on school grounds then I don't think the school should restrict an active student from participating in sports. I will add that if the coach for a particular sport decided not to allow the player to be a part of the team because of that felony I would understand but something that happened away from the school and not during school hours shouldn't determine your participation in school activities/functions if you are indeed free and out of jail. An active student in the school system should be allowed to act as an active student. Arrest record be damned IMO.
May 17, 201313 yr Very seldom, especially if it is their first offense. It is ridiculous how much trouble a kid has to get into before any serious action is taken by the courts... At least where I live that is the way it is. Not always, no. Not even for a felony. As someone mentioned, depends on the crime. The court system in KY is very lenient on juvenile offenders. Usually it is a revolving door in and out of court. That explains a lot.
May 17, 201313 yr If it was committed on school grounds then I say absolutely not. If it wasn't on school grounds then I don't think the school should restrict an active student from participating in sports. I will add that if the coach for a particular sport decided not to allow the player to be a part of the team because of that felony I would understand but something that happened away from the school and not during school hours shouldn't determine your participation in school activities/functions if you are indeed free and out of jail. An active student in the school system should be allowed to act as an active student. Arrest record be damned IMO. Do you think athletes should be held to a minimum code of conduct? Or are you just saying that "not in jail" is your minimum?
May 17, 201313 yr How do you commit a felony and not get jail time? Is that possible? As a juvenile, yes. As an adult as well. You don't necessarily get "jail time" with a felony. You're going to get arrested, but "jail time" isn't a sure thing. As far as my opinion for this topic? I think if it's a violent felony, no way. If it's non-violent, I don't see, if they've already done what is expected of them in the legal system, why they wouldn't be allowed.
May 17, 201313 yr If it was committed on school grounds then I say absolutely not. If it wasn't on school grounds then I don't think the school should restrict an active student from participating in sports. I will add that if the coach for a particular sport decided not to allow the player to be a part of the team because of that felony I would understand but something that happened away from the school and not during school hours shouldn't determine your participation in school activities/functions if you are indeed free and out of jail. An active student in the school system should be allowed to act as an active student. Arrest record be damned IMO. Let them play, If a student can be enrolled in a school, on grade level, and passing his or her classes, why not get them into something positive, that can keep them off the street, around some role models. If they are in jail long, or a trouble maker chances are they wont be eligible anyway. Sports is not just for the priveleged, the good, and the well behaved. It is a platform to teach...especially in high school, we have to not lose sight of that.
May 17, 201313 yr Do schools have rules about athletes who commit a crime especially if its a felony? If a boy or girl commits a felony but does not get jail time should a school say they can't play any sports? If you were a coach would you allow a kid who commits a serious crime to be on the team? If there is no path to redemption, following an even darker path becomes more likely. One year suspension with conditions set for reinstatement.
May 17, 201313 yr As an adult as well. You don't necessarily get "jail time" with a felony. You're going to get arrested, but "jail time" isn't a sure thing. As far as my opinion for this topic? I think if it's a violent felony, no way. If it's non-violent, I don't see, if they've already done what is expected of them in the legal system, why they wouldn't be allowed. Well id say getting arrested and going to jail is still some (even if its only a little) jail time. Juveniles get none most of the time.
May 17, 201313 yr Do you think athletes should be held to a minimum code of conduct? Or are you just saying that "not in jail" is your minimum? Not sure. I don't have a problem with a coach who establishes a code of conduct. I don't have a problem with coaches that don't. I do feel like if a kid commits a felony in July and is not in jail and an active member in the school system when football practice starts if the coach allows that kid to play I don't have any heartburn about it. Why should a non-suspended, non-expelled student not be allowed to play sports?
May 17, 201313 yr If it was committed on school grounds then I say absolutely not. If it wasn't on school grounds then I don't think the school should restrict an active student from participating in sports. I will add that if the coach for a particular sport decided not to allow the player to be a part of the team because of that felony I would understand but something that happened away from the school and not during school hours shouldn't determine your participation in school activities/functions if you are indeed free and out of jail. An active student in the school system should be allowed to act as an active student. Arrest record be damned IMO. What if they flunk a drug test? The drugs weren't taken on school grounds so they should still be able to play? I think they sit the year out (sports) and if they stay clean and out of trouble then punishment is served.
May 17, 201313 yr Yes, the kid should not play. A felony is a serious offense and with it should come some serious consequences. Kids need to be held accountable and understand that their actions have consequences including the loss of participating in high school athletics. I know there may be some that say athletics may keep him out of additional trouble and I say "hogwash". It's too late after the felony has been committed. I know this may sound "old school" but that's what I believe. Think before you act and if you don't, be prepared to accept the consequences. Athletics is a privilege not a right! I recall a kid at my alma mater who came in from a detention center. I think he was convicted of a felony. The kid was strong as a bull and came out to play football. It changed his life. The discipline, the coach, the team mates and the other adults in his life changed him. In that instance I saw where giving someone a second chance works. I have however seen some athletes here in VA that literally wore ankle bracelets for monitoring and were allowed to take them off to play a football game and then put them back on. I kind of wondered about the coach's decision on that one.
May 17, 201313 yr What if they flunk a drug test? The drugs weren't taken on school grounds so they should still be able to play? I think they sit the year out (sports) and if they stay clean and out of trouble then punishment is served. Who administered the drug test and why? Is it random? Court ordered?
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