December 18, 201213 yr Lessons Learned from past School Shooting Saved Lives. In years past when ever the police answered a call of an active shooter in any location like a school the procedure called for them to secure the perimeter and attempt to make contact with shooter while waiting for SWAT or backup to arrive. Thanks to lessons learned Police now enter the location and actively search for the shooter. That is what happened in this case. When officers arrived at the school the shooter (who I refuse to name) was looking for more victims and trying to get into another classroom. When confronted with approaching police officers this coward of a person retreated and killed himself. Had the officer followed the procedures that were still being taught just 10-15 years ago, many many more lives would have been lost. While this is a tragedy of unimagined proportions, it could have been even worse. Bless those teachers that saved lives by reacting to secure their children and bless the families of the families of the teachers that bought time and saved lives by giving theirs.
December 19, 201213 yr What I can't believe in this whole nightmare is the media. First, they got fact after fact COMPLETELY wrong....including the shooter's name, the presence of a second "suspect" and where the mother worked. Used to be you verified information before you aired it. Now, it's just who can get it out there first. More recently, I am appalled at the shows like Katie and Dr. Phil who just "had to" come to Newtown to tell the stories. Exploiting those poor kids and the teachers for their own ratings...it is shameful. One chick on CNN said "they want us to leave" but I don't see anyone pulling out of there.
December 19, 201213 yr Problem is, people will watch those shows. I find it hard to watch more than a few minutes of news reports on this at a time.
December 19, 201213 yr I just picked a good round number. I imagine the actual cost would depend on where the school is. Correct. But by the time you figure fringes and the like, $50K isn't unrealistic at all.
December 19, 201213 yr Correct. But by the time you figure fringes and the like, $50K isn't unrealistic at all. My wife is a social worker with the state and the $50,000 is pretty close even considering benefits.
December 19, 201213 yr http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8760303&city=newyork One of the victims, Jack Pinto was such a bog NY Giants/Victor Cruz fan that the family decided to bury him in a Victor Cruz jersey. Cruz visited the family today.
December 19, 201213 yr Yup and the fact is mace doesn't work on everyone. I think the best solution is to secure the schools with better doors and locking systems. Bullet proof glass where needed and if someone needs to be armed then you hire a professional. As far as where the money would come from look at Henderson as an example. There are 10 public schools, 7 elementary, 2 middle schools, and 1 high school. If you hired one person for each at $50,000/yr that's $500,000. There are about 40,000 people in Henderson County. That's $1.04/month per person in additional school tax. In Hillsborough and Pinellas Counties in Florida, aka the Tampa Bay Area, all public schools, with the exception of small charters, have at least 1 armed "Resource Officer" supplied by the city police or county sheriff's department. Many high schools have as many 4 or more ROs on campus everyday. I know Tampa Catholic and Tampa Jesuit employ armed security. Not sure about other private schools.
December 19, 201213 yr In Hillsborough and Pinellas Counties in Florida, aka the Tampa Bay Area, all public schools, with the exception of small charters, have at least 1 armed "Resource Officer" supplied by the city police or county sheriff's department. Many high schools have as many 4 or more ROs on campus everyday. I know Tampa Catholic and Tampa Jesuit employ armed security. Not sure about other private schools. I know the high school in Henderson has a resource officer and I think the middle schools do too but not positive on that.
December 19, 201213 yr Sorry, I'm not buying that. And seriously, do you think you need more than 5 to get that burglar? Back to the targets! If Targets broke into our house or committed other crimes I would agree with you. Targets always stand still...criminals don't Targets will just wait to be shot and won't rush you...criminals will rush you Targets will never have a buddy attack you while you are reloading from shooting the first target...criminals won't wait Targets are "dead or stopped" with one shot...criminals? not always plus when you are shooting targets you control the conditions...criminals by nature try to use surprise nerves and adrenaline don't really come into play shooting a target at the range at noon on a Friday...but at 2am on a Monday night nerves and adrenaline will over whelm you making at least your first few shots less than perfect against a moving and defensive criminal. I can make any normal pistol or rifle shot at the range on the first shot any time...I would not want to risk my families safety to only having 5 shots against unknown number of criminals.
December 19, 201213 yr Brother-inl-law's "comfort dog" was on NBC today. "Prince" traveled from northern Indiana and joined other dogs to help comfort the traumatized and grieving children of Sandy Hook Elem.
December 20, 201213 yr Brother-inl-law's "comfort dog" was on NBC today. "Prince" traveled from northern Indiana and joined other dogs to help comfort the traumatized and grieving children of Sandy Hook Elem. I love those dogs! When my grandma was in hospice care they had a comfort dog and it was awesome. Always made me smile.
December 20, 201213 yr If Targets broke into our house or committed other crimes I would agree with you. Targets always stand still...criminals don't Targets will just wait to be shot and won't rush you...criminals will rush you Targets will never have a buddy attack you while you are reloading from shooting the first target...criminals won't wait Targets are "dead or stopped" with one shot...criminals? not always plus when you are shooting targets you control the conditions...criminals by nature try to use surprise nerves and adrenaline don't really come into play shooting a target at the range at noon on a Friday...but at 2am on a Monday night nerves and adrenaline will over whelm you making at least your first few shots less than perfect against a moving and defensive criminal. I can make any normal pistol or rifle shot at the range on the first shot any time...I would not want to risk my families safety to only having 5 shots against unknown number of criminals. Thank you for that, I hadn't been in here in a couple of days.
December 20, 201213 yr Jeter reached out to the parents of the teacher who was killed. Derek Jeter of New York Yankees called mother of Newtown teacher Victoria Soto - ESPN New York
December 20, 201213 yr I love those dogs! When my grandma was in hospice care they had a comfort dog and it was awesome. Always made me smile. Brother-in-law is a school counselor and brings the dog to school everyday. His students were so excited to see "their" Prince on TV, and happy that to help the Sandy Hook kids.
December 23, 201213 yr A hockey team put the names of a deceased Sandy Hook victim on their jersey. https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/282665766199914497/photo/1
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