The CovCath-NewCath score was a case of one team playing the worst game of the season and a very good team playing one of their best games of the year. Just one of those games, however, I believe that if they were to play again it would have been much closer. A NewCath Higlands game would have been close as well. Don't base a whole season on one game.

 

The point of the post was not basing their season on one game. Fact is year in and year out NCC will have great difficulty in competing with Highlands or Cov. Cath. I do not think there is much disagreement about that fact.

Great point LBBC :thumb:

 

I think it is great to see any school have a great rivalry!!!! It's all apart of the game :thumb:

I think it is the very essence of HS sports. Some on here are for open enrollment across the board but I think that would take the very best of HS sports out of the picture....Pride in your community and their accomplishments.

 

PC used to be huge rivals with Bracken. And then Brossart moved into our district and they became a rival. Brossart and Campbell County are huge rivals. As Harrison County moves into the district with Pendleton, I am sure the rivalry there will go up a notch.

 

St. X would be diminished without Trinity. The rivalry of two top programs is what makes HS sports so grand.

I think it is the very essence of HS sports. Some on here are for open enrollment across the board but I think that would take the very best of HS sports out of the picture....Pride in your community and their accomplishments.

 

PC used to be huge rivals with Bracken. And then Brossart moved into our district and they became a rival. Brossart and Campbell County are huge rivals. As Harrison County moves into the district with Pendleton, I am sure the rivalry there will go up a notch.

 

St. X would be diminished without Trinity. The rivalry of two top programs is what makes HS sports so grand.

 

 

While I am a supporter of open enrollment (its the libertarain streak in me) I agree about the pride in community and its accomplishments. I'm not sure however if I think several players playing for another school district takes the very best of high school sports out of the picture though. Again, if you are losing your better players year in and year out to another district, if you are the super, principal, ad or head coach, you need to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you are getting your job accomplished. My guess is that in most circumstances, the honest answer would be no. The problem with closed enrollment or even the throwing out of the successful private programs is that it encourages mediocrity. If your competition is poor, you'll be poor; that's true in business and in sports. Time after time I heard businesses say they had to get better at what they do because their competitors were getting better. Its the same in academics. I do think that for a long time the public schools were content with only a moderate level of support because its all they needed to stay moderately successful. As the privates and some publics have increased the level of committment, a large majority of publics failed to do the same and they are now so far behind that its making a huge difference. Some publics have started making a much bigger committment, but they are decades behind (heck, Highlands has been committed to football success since the late 50's). To think that a public school that has only been committed to winning for the last 5 years is going to catch up that quickly isn't always realistic (although I must admit, Boyle County did it and did it quick with Smith). Further exacerbating some public schools problem is the lack of an organized youth football program feeding kids learned in the fundamentals to the high school. The Louisville situation comes to mind here. With the X and T kids having played in a well organized and structured catholic youth league and the public kids playing in what I interpret to be a patch work, non uniform bunch of different leagues in Louisville, its easy to see why X and T have a big advantage over the publics in Louisville. As I understand it, the Lexington public schools for some time, only allowed the middle school football teams to play 5 games due to funding issues (has that recently changed?). Heck, that would set any high school team back a long way when competing against kids that played 10 games a year in youth football. And that does not begin to address just what sort of training these kids are getting (or maybe more appropriately stated, not getting) in the 3, 4 and 5 grades.Candidly if the public high school head coaches want to beat the LexCaths, the Xs, the Ts, the Highlands, they need to en mass tell their superintendants that a much more organized youth football program must be started; they need to go to the mayor and make sure a better city wide youth program is started and organized. I know it takes time, but it pays dividends. Who started the youth football program in Ft. Thomas? Homer Rice did when he was the head coach at Highlands. He not only started it, he continued to stay involved with it during his tenure. Since he left,every head coach at Highlands has been an active player in the youth football league. Sure it takes time to run the coaches clinics and the player clinics; sure it takes time to attend the Board meetings several times a year. Heck Dale will go elementary school to elementary school in the late spring encouraging kids to sign up for youth football. But its worth it if you want to win state championships. (How in the heck did I get so off on a tangent?) I guess its because I believe if you want kids to take pride in their community and their community high school football team, the coaches have to give them something to be proud in and do more than just coach the high school football team. That's not good enough any more and hasn't been for quite some time.

They are not dominant in the form of winning state championships in team sports. There are multiple other schools in Northern Kentucky that have won more state titles in the recent past than Covinton Catholic. Last time Cov. Cath won a state title in Cross Country was 1994, Golf was the only other state title I could find in 1984. Brossart, St. Henry, Highlands, Notre Dame, etc. have all won state titles in the last 5 years, with a few of those mentioned in multiple sports.

 

Were these team state championships in boys sports? In sports other than cross country?

a. They're two of the top teams in 3A in the state every year

b. Players go to Highlands when they can't make it at CovCath

c. 4A in NKY never wins state, so CCH and Highlands are the two biggest schools around to make noise at the big show, and they have to play every year, and a lot of times play again in the playoffs, ending one team's season

b. Players go to Highlands when they can't make it at CovCath

Is it a bad time of the year for grapes? They must be tasting really sour for you.

 

Is it a bad time of the year for grapes? They must be tasting really sour for you.

 

 

That would be a relevant comment if my post was just a random comment, but seeing as how it's not, and that's what this thread is about, your post is just trying to avoid the point. If you look back at every transfer in recent times who has gone to Highlands from CovCath and played football, my post holds water.

That would be a relevant comment if my post was just a random comment, but seeing as how it's not, and that's what this thread is about, your post is just trying to avoid the point. If you look back at every transfer in recent times who has gone to Highlands from CovCath and played football, my post holds water.

 

Despite the accuracy of that post, some people are still going to take offense to it.

a. They're two of the top teams in 3A in the state every year

b. Players go to Highlands when they can't make it at CovCath

c. 4A in NKY never wins state, so CCH and Highlands are the two biggest schools around to make noise at the big show, and they have to play every year, and a lot of times play again in the playoffs, ending one team's season

 

BFritz,

 

As a fan of Sports in Northern Kentucky and thus both schools in this discussion, I can say with some certainty that your Principal, Athletic Director, and Teachers, didn't teach you to speak this way about others. The one thing that I have been impressed with at CovCath at the many games I have attended there over the years, is the way the students cheer on their team, they do it with class and “with a Sprit that will not die”. Your above statement didn't show any class at all and as an Alum of CovCath it doesn’t make CovCath look very good either.

 

 

Gunner11,

 

I think you will find that CovCath won the State High School Baseball Tournament in 2002.

a. They're two of the top teams in 3A in the state every year

b. Players go to Highlands when they can't make it at CovCath

c. 4A in NKY never wins state, so CCH and Highlands are the two biggest schools around to make noise at the big show, and they have to play every year, and a lot of times play again in the playoffs, ending one team's season

 

There is nothing accurate about that post. I know 2 kids who went from Highlands to Cov. Cath. specifically because they were having various issues at Highlands. Kids move schools for various reasons all the time.

BFritz,

 

As a fan of Sports in Northern Kentucky and thus both schools in this discussion, I can say with some certainty that your Principal, Athletic Director, and Teachers, didn't teach you to speak this way about others. The one thing that I have been impressed with at CovCath at the many games I have attended there over the years, is the way the students cheer on their team, they do it with class and “with a Sprit that will not die”. Your above statement didn't show any class at all and as an Alum of CovCath it doesn’t make CovCath look very good either.

 

 

Gunner11,

 

I think you will find that CovCath won the State High School Baseball Tournament in 2002.

But yet it's ok to say everything bad about CovCath- double standard. This thread was about the rivalry, and as covcathftball said, if you do some research, you'll learn how accurate my post was.

 

I'll take responsibility for everything I say. I'm pretty sure that a lot of CovCath people agree with me, but I won't bring them into it, I'll back up everything I say and I'll take it all on

There is nothing accurate about that post. I know 2 kids who went from Highlands to Cov. Cath. specifically because they were having various issues at Highlands. Kids move schools for various reasons all the time.

 

How would 1 of 3 points being wrong make nothing accurate about it? Anyways, the 2 kids have nothing to do with my point. That's only 2, and did they play sports, and name some more who switched to CovCath for sports because they couldn't make it academic wise at CovCath

That would be a relevant comment if my post was just a random comment, but seeing as how it's not, and that's what this thread is about, your post is just trying to avoid the point. If you look back at every transfer in recent times who has gone to Highlands from CovCath and played football, my post holds water.

:lol: :lol:

 

Nice post OB.

But yet it's ok to say everything bad about CovCath- double standard. This thread was about the rivalry, and as covcathftball said, if you do some research, you'll learn how accurate my post was

 

 

All most probably true, but as you will learn as you grow older (and you will grow older) pointing fingers at others only leaves yourself open to others pointing it right back at you. Learn to consider the source of the finger pointing and be better than the person who is pointing that finger at you. You received a great education at CovCath that not many receive, use it. Remember how the crowd loved CovCath at Rupp because of how you the student body cheered. No one in the CovCath section was rude, crude, or poor sports they just cheered their team on, by being funny, loud, and doing cheers that no one else had thought of. Be proud you are a CovCath grad and show the current students how a CovCath grad acts; you would be surprised at how many of the current students look up to the former students. They might not admit it but they do.

Look BFritz, your taking this thread in a direction that we don't need to go to. There are lots of reasons kids start at CCH only to leave for another school. I graduated from CCH and if I was asked what my opinion would have been, it would have been to transfer my freshman year. It wasn't, I didn't, and thats OK. I met and grew up with alot of great young men but I can easily see why CCH is not for everyone. Sometimes people just don't fit in at CCH. It is very click oriented at the student level. I'm not saying it's bad or good, just that it is.