Check your facts LSURock, Woody is 4-5-1 against Bo. There is only one decade where OSU dominated, the 60's they had 7 wins. So far OSU has 4 wins in the 2000's, so they have the potential to have their second winning decade in history against Michigan. 2 wins in the 90's, 4 in the 80's, 5 in the 70's, 5 in the 50's, 2 in the 40's, 5 in the 30's, 4 in the 20's. Michigan leads the overall series by 18 games. Michigan is even 5 games over .500 playing at OSU. You would think in most rivalries, you would at least have a winning record at home. I really have no dog in this fight, because I do not like either team. Just giving facts.

I have no dog in the fight either but was responding to the post that inferred that UM dominated the series. You are correct about Woody vs. Bo, they didn't even meet as many times as I thought. However, Woody is 16-11-1 overall against UM. Earle Bruce is 5-4 against UM. OSU might have only won 5 in the seventies but UM only won 4 with a tie. My point is that the series has ebbed back and forth unlike Cov Cath and HHS.

Since you are such good friends with the teachers at Cov Cath, you should ask them why they were unable to properly prepare those students for the rigors of High school academics. It seems the teachers at Highlands were able to pull it off. All those players graduated and earned diplomas. Plus, as a bonus, they got State Championship rings!

From personal experience, I can tell you that the teachers at CovCath will do everything in their power to prepare kids for college as well as for life, alls it takes is the kids' willingness to be helped and succeeed. I have a brain injury, and it was much worse while I was in high school, I worked hard and succeeded. If you'd like to show me any student with something as bad or worse than a brain injury that tried to succeed at CovCath but couldn't, I'd be happy to listen......... I'll wait

Since you are such good friends with the teachers at Cov Cath, you should ask them why they were unable to properly prepare those students for the rigors of High school academics. It seems the teachers at Highlands were able to pull it off. All those players graduated and earned diplomas. Plus, as a bonus, they got State Championship rings!

 

Don't be silly.

 

These boys would have graduated at CCH. Its not even questionable. There was no miracle teaching done in Ft Thomas to get these boys their diplomas.

 

Secondly, if ANY child is not ready for high school academics by the time they hit high school, its a lot to ask of the high school teachers to suddenly get them to where they need to be.

From personal experience, I can tell you that the teachers at CovCath will do everything in their power to prepare kids for college as well as for life, alls it takes is the kids' willingness to be helped and succeeed. I have a brain injury, and it was much worse while I was in high school, I worked hard and succeeded. If you'd like to show me any student with something as bad or worse than a brain injury that tried to succeed at CovCath but couldn't, I'd be happy to listen......... I'll wait

 

 

And this post has what, exactly, to do with mine? I'll wait...

Don't be silly.

 

These boys would have graduated at CCH. Its not even questionable. There was no miracle teaching done in Ft Thomas to get these boys their diplomas.

 

Secondly, if ANY child is not ready for high school academics by the time they hit high school, its a lot to ask of the high school teachers to suddenly get them to where they need to be.

 

 

You make my point. The kids would have made it academically at any school. For Fritz to say they could not cut it at Cov Cath is a ridiculous statement. It had nothing to do with the teachers at Highlands being better than at Cov Cath, I just had to get a dig in at Fritz's expense.

From personal experience, I can tell you that the teachers at CovCath will do everything in their power to prepare kids for college as well as for life, alls it takes is the kids' willingness to be helped and succeeed. I have a brain injury, and it was much worse while I was in high school, I worked hard and succeeded. If you'd like to show me any student with something as bad or worse than a brain injury that tried to succeed at CovCath but couldn't, I'd be happy to listen......... I'll wait

 

 

By the way, Highlands had a placekicker 2-3 years ago that has downs syndrome. He was an inspiration to everyone on the team and in the community. He graduated and is now an assistant coach for the Birds. So don't go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back for your "accomplishment".

CCH dominated the region in the late 60's - I believe they won 4 or 5 straight. They lost on a controversial half court (full court?) shot to Earlington in the state championship - I have heard (have not seen them) that there are pictures where the Earlington player clearly has the ball in his hand, and the clock shows 0:00 in the background.

 

Andy Listerman & Company was '92, and then they broke that drought with their semi-final appearance in '04.

 

 

In the 1967 State finals, with CovCath up by one point and with three seconds on the clock, Earlington High School takes the ball out from under the Colonels basket. One of the Earlington player took a shot from behind the center court line and hits the front of the rim. Now 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces high into the air or comes down far from the basket, but not that night. Upon just skimming the front of the rim the ball falls straight down into a stunned and surprised Earlington player, who laid it back in as the horn sounds and a stunned CovCath team and fan literally cry in disbelief. I remember how the players said later that they were afraid to fight for the ball as it came down as they were afraid that the Ref was going to call a foul, and thus give Earlington a chance to win the game with no time on the clock from the foul line. I remember this night and game like it was yesterday.

 

The following year CovCath lost to the State Champion Glasgow in what the Coach of the Scotties called years later their toughest game of the State Tournament. He felt that if CovCath had won the game they would have been the State Champs and said that it was a shame that both teams played so early in the tournament.

 

CovCath won the 9th region five straight times starting with the 66/67 season and were number one in the state on many occasion during that run. CovCath traveled all over the state in those days’s playing everyone from Hazard to Central to Male many times on the road. They played in the AIT, LIT and more. In those day’s if you didn’t get into the CovCath gym by the start of the JV game you didn’t get in as they had to close the doors.

 

BTW, CovCath is the cradle of NKU basketball coaches. Mote Hils, Ken Shields, and current asst coach Andy Listerman are all former players or coaches of CovCath. :thumb:

And this post has what, exactly, to do with mine? I'll wait...

you should ask them why they were unable to properly prepare those students for the rigors of High school academics.

 

That's what it has to do with your post. They could prepare anyone for high school academics, which is evident by them being able to help me, who has a brain injury which would make me much tougher to help than any normal kid.

 

You may stop waiting

In the 1967 State finals, with CovCath up by one point and with three seconds on the clock, Earlington High School takes the ball out from under the Colonels basket. One of the Earlington player took a shot from behind the center court line and hits the front of the rim. Now 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces high into the air or comes down far from the basket, but not that night. Upon just skimming the front of the rim the ball falls straight down into a stunned and surprised Earlington player, who laid it back in as the horn sounds and a stunned CovCath team and fan literally cry in disbelief. I remember how the players said later that they were afraid to fight for the ball as it came down as they were afraid that the Ref was going to call a foul, and thus give Earlington a chance to win the game with no time on the clock from the foul line. I remember this night and game like it was yesterday.

 

The following year CovCath lost to the State Champion Glasgow in what the Coach of the Scotties called years later their toughest game of the State Tournament. He felt that if CovCath had won the game they would have been the State Champs and said that it was a shame that both teams played so early in the tournament.

 

CovCath won the 9th region five straight times starting with the 66/67 season and were number one in the state on many occasion during that run. CovCath traveled all over the state in those days’s playing everyone from Hazard to Central to Male many times on the road. They played in the AIT, LIT and more. In those day’s if you didn’t get into the CovCath gym by the start of the JV game you didn’t get in as they had to close the doors.

 

BTW, CovCath is the cradle of NKU basketball coaches. Mote Hils, Ken Shields, and current asst coach Andy Listerman are all former players or coaches of CovCath. :thumb:

Apparantly, when my dad played, CovCath made the state finals, and should have won but the refs said he didn't get off a shot at the last second that went in to win. One of my teachers (from my 5th year at Dixie, not CovCath), my teacher said that he obviously got it off butt he refs wouldn't let them win because they were a Catholic school. Other people confirmed what he said, my dad didn't really comment

In the 1967 State finals, with CovCath up by one point and with three seconds on the clock, Earlington High School takes the ball out from under the Colonels basket. One of the Earlington player took a shot from behind the center court line and hits the front of the rim. Now 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces high into the air or comes down far from the basket, but not that night. Upon just skimming the front of the rim the ball falls straight down into a stunned and surprised Earlington player, who laid it back in as the horn sounds and a stunned CovCath team and fan literally cry in disbelief. I remember how the players said later that they were afraid to fight for the ball as it came down as they were afraid that the Ref was going to call a foul, and thus give Earlington a chance to win the game with no time on the clock from the foul line. I remember this night and game like it was yesterday.

 

The following year CovCath lost to the State Champion Glasgow in what the Coach of the Scotties called years later their toughest game of the State Tournament. He felt that if CovCath had won the game they would have been the State Champs and said that it was a shame that both teams played so early in the tournament.

 

CovCath won the 9th region five straight times starting with the 66/67 season and were number one in the state on many occasion during that run. CovCath traveled all over the state in those days’s playing everyone from Hazard to Central to Male many times on the road. They played in the AIT, LIT and more. In those day’s if you didn’t get into the CovCath gym by the start of the JV game you didn’t get in as they had to close the doors.

 

BTW, CovCath is the cradle of NKU basketball coaches. Mote Hils, Ken Shields, and current asst coach Andy Listerman are all former players or coaches of CovCath. :thumb:

 

:thumb: Thanks old guy - I had heard all of that before, but would not have been able to reproduce it. Anyway, I appreciate it.

 

Have you ever seen the picture that I mentioned, that shows that the Earlington player did not get the shot off, or is it a myth?

 

FWIW, Kevin Listerman is the assistant coach at NKU. Andy Listerman is the Assistant AD @ Lexington Catholic, I believe.

:thumb: Thanks old guy - I had heard all of that before, but would not have been able to reproduce it. Anyway, I appreciate it.

 

Have you ever seen the picture that I mentioned, that shows that the Earlington player did not get the shot off, or is it a myth?

 

FWIW, Kevin Listerman is the assistant coach at NKU. Andy Listerman is the Assistant AD @ Lexington Catholic, I believe.

 

Have seen the old eight mm tape that CovCath had (gee I wonder if they still have it). Couldn't tell but IMHO the shot was good. If they still have it would be so cool to get it made into a DVD. Also to let you know, I don't think the 2003 team would have a chance beating the 67 or 68 teams Those old team were so big and strong.

 

What you might be thinking about is the Holmes loss in the finals where the other team had its player with his hand poking the winining basket out and the official not making the call but in the next day's paper they had the picture showing that it really happened.

 

 

Thanks I get the brothers mixed up.....

Have seen the old eight mm tape that CovCath had (gee I wonder if they still have it). Couldn't tell but IMHO the shot was good. If they still have it would be so cool to get it made into a DVD. Also to let you know, I don't think the 2003 team would have a chance beating the 67 or 68 teams Those old team were so big and strong.

 

What you might be thinking about is the Holmes loss in the finals where the other team had its player with his hand poking the winining basket out and the official not making the call but in the next day's paper they had the picture showing that it really happened.

 

Thanks I get the brothers mixed up.....

 

I know all about the Holmes' shot by Doug Schloemer which was goaltended by Shelby County's Charles Hurt; however, I had heard a few times (just the other day, mosto recently) that there was a picture of the Earlington player. I guess that's one of those legends, though.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see the 2004 (not 2003) team against the '67 or '68 teams. I'd imagine that they played very different styles...

I know all about the Holmes' shot by Doug Schloemer which was goaltended by Shelby County's Charles Hurt; however, I had heard a few times (just the other day, mosto recently) that there was a picture of the Earlington player. I guess that's one of those legends, though.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see the 2004 (not 2003) team against the '67 or '68 teams. I'd imagine that they played very different styles...

 

Okay the 2003/204 team. :laugh:

 

Too late to go into this now, but if those old teams had the three point shot then....WOW. Joe Fritz, Dale Overman and Randy Noll would have had a ton more points added to their CCH totals....

In the 1967 State finals, with CovCath up by one point and with three seconds on the clock, Earlington High School takes the ball out from under the Colonels basket. One of the Earlington player took a shot from behind the center court line and hits the front of the rim. Now 99 times out of a 100 that ball bounces high into the air or comes down far from the basket, but not that night. Upon just skimming the front of the rim the ball falls straight down into a stunned and surprised Earlington player, who laid it back in as the horn sounds and a stunned CovCath team and fan literally cry in disbelief. I remember how the players said later that they were afraid to fight for the ball as it came down as they were afraid that the Ref was going to call a foul, and thus give Earlington a chance to win the game with no time on the clock from the foul line. I remember this night and game like it was yesterday.

 

The following year CovCath lost to the State Champion Glasgow in what the Coach of the Scotties called years later their toughest game of the State Tournament. He felt that if CovCath had won the game they would have been the State Champs and said that it was a shame that both teams played so early in the tournament.

 

CovCath won the 9th region five straight times starting with the 66/67 season and were number one in the state on many occasion during that run. CovCath traveled all over the state in those days’s playing everyone from Hazard to Central to Male many times on the road. They played in the AIT, LIT and more. In those day’s if you didn’t get into the CovCath gym by the start of the JV game you didn’t get in as they had to close the doors.

 

BTW, CovCath is the cradle of NKU basketball coaches. Mote Hils, Ken Shields, and current asst coach Andy Listerman are all former players or coaches of CovCath. :thumb:

 

My Question is as much as you want to cry foul for CCH. I don't think any team in the history of the 9th has got more bad calls or play their ways in the state tournament than Holmes.

By the way, Highlands had a placekicker 2-3 years ago that has downs syndrome. He was an inspiration to everyone on the team and in the community. He graduated and is now an assistant coach for the Birds. So don't go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back for your "accomplishment".

 

And that has what to do with my comment? And if you don't think I've overcome anything, then that's your opinion, and I'm fine with it, but that has nothing to do with what I said. Alls I said was that the teachers at CovCath will do everything in their power to help a kid succeed.

 

The more I look at it, the more mad I am, if anything, I was patting CovCath's teachers on the back