June 24, 201115 yr Or Grandal and I'd do that if I were the Reds and I'd have Chapman pitch as a stater in Louisville the rest of the season if I got rid of Wood. You would trade Mesoraco, Wood and Cozart for Reyes, who may walk as a free agent at the end of the year?
June 24, 201115 yr You would trade Mesoraco, Wood and Cozart for Reyes, who may walk as a free agent at the end of the year? No, it makes no sense. I'm not convinced that makes them a WS contender. This guys against everything they have been doing the last few years to build this team to where it is. Stick to your plan. Only way I'm making a trade like that is if it is for a bit time pitcher.
June 24, 201115 yr No, it makes no sense. I'm not convinced that makes them a WS contender. This guys against everything they have been doing the last few years to build this team to where it is. Stick to your plan. Only way I'm making a trade like that is if it is for a bit time pitcher. Reyes would certainly help the offense, but Mesoraco and Wood would constitute a prohibitive cost for a guy that's likely to walk away for a big-money contract next winter. I agree with you ...
June 24, 201115 yr You would trade Mesoraco, Wood and Cozart for Reyes, who may walk as a free agent at the end of the year? Yes. They have a 3 year window and I'd do everything to win now. I don't think Wood or Cozart are that good. I'd rather deal Grandal but I'd do it either way.
June 24, 201115 yr No, it makes no sense. I'm not convinced that makes them a WS contender. This guys against everything they have been doing the last few years to build this team to where it is. Stick to your plan. Only way I'm making a trade like that is if it is for a bit time pitcher. The plan to rebuild worked. Now it's time to compete for a title other than NL Central.
June 24, 201115 yr This guy gets it: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/cincinnati-go-big-or-go-home/
June 24, 201115 yr Wood, Hanigan, Alonso, Frazier, and Cozart (Package of some kind) for Jose Reyes um no thanks. Jeremy Guthrie gives up HR's like they are going out of style. Will only be worse in GASP. No thanks again. All this depth is nice, but what the franchise needs more than an excess of young talent is an energized fan base that is buying season tickets and generating revenue for years into the future. The only way to do this is NOT mortgage your future for a rental player like Jose Reyes.
June 24, 201115 yr This guy gets it: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/cincinnati-go-big-or-go-home/ Good article but he only looks at it from the Reds' side, and even then he almost argues against the deal from the Mets' side with his comments on the Reds' prospects. Let's look at it from the Mets' side: Alonso - zero interest in him as the Mets already have a young 1B they like. Cozart - Moderate interest but the article itself states that Cozart's offensive numbers are inflated. Frazier - At best, a utility player at the MLB level. Wood - Probably the most interesting player for the Mets. They can use the pitching help and he would be very solid in the Mets ballpark. Catcher - Would Hanigan entice you to deal the current best SS in baseball? So if I am the Mets looking at what the Reds have to offer, there isn't one player in that list that gets me excited about a deal. The only player I have more than moderate interest in is Wood. Put yourself in the Mets' shoes and ask yourself, what do the Reds have that would make you WANT to make a deal?
June 24, 201115 yr I agree with SSC in that this team is in year 1 of a 3 year window. No chance they'll be able to keep the likes of Votto, Cueto, Stubbs, Phillips, etc. without winning big and generating much more fan interest. I don't see guys in the minors that can be those missing pieces (save Mesoraco) to get them there. They need to bring up Cozart and hope he shows enough to increase his value or prove he's capable of being a solution at SS. Not sure Reyes is the right guy, but I would 100% be behind a Cozart, Alonso, Wood type package for him. The only prospect I wouldn't be willing to move is Mesoraco.
June 24, 201115 yr Good article but he only looks at it from the Reds' side, and even then he almost argues against the deal from the Mets' side with his comments on the Reds' prospects. Let's look at it from the Mets' side: Alonso - zero interest in him as the Mets already have a young 1B they like. Cozart - Moderate interest but the article itself states that Cozart's offensive numbers are inflated. Frazier - At best, a utility player at the MLB level. Wood - Probably the most interesting player for the Mets. They can use the pitching help and he would be very solid in the Mets ballpark. Catcher - Would Hanigan entice you to deal the current best SS in baseball? So if I am the Mets looking at what the Reds have to offer, there isn't one player in that list that gets me excited about a deal. The only player I have more than moderate interest in is Wood. Put yourself in the Mets' shoes and ask yourself, what do the Reds have that would make you WANT to make a deal? Yasmani? :idunno:
June 24, 201115 yr Yasmani? :idunno: That is a possibility. I think a younger player with huge upside would entice a deal more than anyone the Reds have at AAA.
June 24, 201115 yr That is a possibility. I think a younger player with huge upside would entice a deal more than anyone the Reds have at AAA. So then the question is, would the Reds be willing to put together a Wood, Grandal, Cozart package?
June 24, 201115 yr So then the question is, would the Reds be willing to put together a Wood, Grandal, Cozart package? For what Reyes?
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