I find it humorous that the teachers on here are getting so upset or offended that people are pointing out they get more days off (not an entire summer) than most other professions. It's a perk of your job, enjoy it. Who cares?

 

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After their shift, obviously. Or the next day before they go back to work. Or on their normal two days off that they get.

 

I do it all the time. I have people working for me from 2AM to 10PM. I can't even begin to count how many times my phone has rang after hours, and I had to "handle" an issue. But it's what I do. I like it, and really I never really even talk about it, much less complain about it.

I find it humorous that the teachers on here are getting so upset or offended that people are pointing out they get more days off (not an entire summer) than most other professions. It's a perk of your job, enjoy it. Who cares?

Amen, plus throw in a retirement that is unheard of in the private sector, you'd think we wouldn't hear too much from that side of the room. Oh well, I have always said that there are some people that you could hand a million bucks to, and they still would have some sort of issue with it...

Some will only EVER see the time that teachers spend with students as "work time."

 

Clyde, you asked me if my summer time commitment was typical. I had lunch with three fellow teachers today. I asked them about what they would be doing this summer.

 

The first teacher is young (mid 20s) will be taking classes five days a week. She was supposed to start Monday, but can't, since we still have Senate Bill 1 training. She does get a week off near July 4th and a week off at the beginning of August. Since she is taking classes toward her (required) Masters degree, does this count as work or is this part of her "time off" this summer?

 

The second teacher has a total of four weekdays off in June. She is attending a variety of conferences. Then, like me, she have to spend time in July working on curriculum for teaching a new AP class.

 

The third teacher is a coach. He has two weeks of conferences for his subject area in June, has the "dead period" off, and then will be practicing every day until school starts. If history repeats itself, he'll spend 8 am to noon at school each of those practice days.

 

I don't know if the four of us are typical teachers or if it is different with other grade levels in our district. I do know that none of the four of us are complaining about our job or any of the work we are doing. I, personally, would just like people to realize the truth of the situation of what our summers, and weekends, and evenings really is.

After their shift, obviously. Or the next day before they go back to work. Or on their normal two days off that they get.

 

But...wouldn't those be nights or weekends (or he equivalent, if they work weekends and are off during the week)? You said that many jobs are required to do work at home, but they don't have nights, weekends or holidays to do the work...so I am confused as to when they do it. Or maybe I am just confused on what your point is with that issue.

"Those that can, do."

"Those that care, teach."

"Those that can't teach, teach phys. ed."

 

 

 

Before anybody gets their gym shorts in a wad, I jest. A little bit.

I've seen several posts on required masters classes. When did this become required? Is it true of all teachers in all districts? Why are there teachers (some with quite a bit of experience) without masters still? Are they grandfathered in to a newer law? Thanks for any info.

Not really on topic, but I saw this the other day and I really liked it.

 

But...wouldn't those be nights or weekends (or he equivalent, if they work weekends and are off during the week)? You said that many jobs are required to do work at home, but they don't have nights, weekends or holidays to do the work...so I am confused as to when they do it. Or maybe I am just confused on what your point is with that issue.

 

My point is having weekends (friday evenings, Saturday and Sunday) off are another perk. Many people work on those days.

 

And many people don't have holidays off, period, while teachers have them all. Which is another nice perk.

My point is having weekends (friday evenings, Saturday and Sunday) off are another perk. Many people work on those days.

 

I work on those days, too, most of the time, though usually not Saturdays...except for graduation this Saturday...and the Saturday of prom...and Saturday football games...and basketball games. :lol:

 

As RTS alluded to, he can attest to my Sunday work ethic. He has tried to get me to put that work off on more than one occasion. He has also called me several times on Saturdays while I was attending a school function, so he knows the reality of my life as a teacher.

 

And many people don't have holidays off, period, while teachers have them all. Which is another nice perk.

 

It is a nice perk. And sometimes, I don't even do any work on them.

I work on those days, too, most of the time, though usually not Saturdays...except for graduation this Saturday...and the Saturday of prom...and Saturday football games...and basketball games. :lol:

 

 

 

It is a nice perk. And sometimes, I don't even do any work on them.

 

I don't blame you. If I had any holidays off I'd do my best not to work :lol:.

I've seen several posts on required masters classes. When did this become required? Is it true of all teachers in all districts? Why are there teachers (some with quite a bit of experience) without masters still? Are they grandfathered in to a newer law? Thanks for any info.

 

It is a requirement now, though there are some teachers grandfathered in. We have a teacher retiring this year after 46 years. He is the only one besides new teachers at my school that doesn't have his masters degree.

 

Upon receiving your provisional certificate (usually after your BA), you have five years to begin your masters program and ten years to finish it.

No it isn't. The avg pay for teachers in KY is about $42,000. In 2009 the median household income for KY was barely over $40,000 so the avg teachers pay is already above the median household income. When you take into account that teachers salary is based on a 180 day contract it slants even more in the favor of the teachers. Private sector pay is based on a 260 day year.

 

So $42,000 for a teachers contract would would calculate out to just over $60,000 over a 260 day contract.

 

I don't mind number comparisons, but could we at least compare teachers with groups that have a similar education requirement? I doubt that the average KY wage earner has or is working on a masters degree.

It is a requirement now, though there are some teachers grandfathered in. We have a teacher retiring this year after 46 years. He is the only one besides new teachers at my school that doesn't have his masters degree.

 

Upon receiving your provisional certificate (usually after your BA), you have five years to begin your masters program and ten years to finish it.

 

Thanks for the info.

I've seen several posts on required masters classes. When did this become required? Is it true of all teachers in all districts? Why are there teachers (some with quite a bit of experience) without masters still? Are they grandfathered in to a newer law? Thanks for any info.

 

All teachers in the public school in KY is required to obtain their Masters within 10 years beginning of their teaching career. I started teaching in 1978 and it was required then. Now you have the choice to go on and get your Rank I...another 2 years of classes. This is not required, but it does provide a pay raise and helps with your retirement.