June 2, 201115 yr I would like to hope that people become teachers because it is something that they feel strongly about. I would also hope that they realize that the personal satisfaction that they get from the job is why they continue to do the job (as opposed to the pats on the back that they get on a message board). Exactly. That is why I was a little confused by an earlier poster who mentioned time off as a factor in considering becoming a teacher. Time off never crossed my mind (good thing, because I'd be disappointed in it if I was teaching for the time off) when I decided to become a teacher. I also do not need a "pat on the back" from anyone on here for what I do. I do, however, deserve the right to correct misrepresentations about what my job entails. That's the thing about teaching. So many people have opinions on what the job is like. I believe that is for two reasons. 1) Everyone went to school, so you feel as though you know what the job of teacher is. 2) In many areas, your largest employer is a school system. I couldn't begin to know what the job is like for a plumber, as I am not one. I could guess, but I'd probably be off. Likewise for a newspaper reporter. Or a CPA. Or a million other jobs, even though I might have seen those jobs in action. I feel like I partly know the job of a nurse, because my stepmom is one and I know how much time she puts in and how draining it is on her. But I don't follow her around while she is at work, so I don't REALLY know.
June 2, 201115 yr Exactly. That is why I was a little confused by an earlier poster who mentioned time off as a factor in considering becoming a teacher. Time off never crossed my mind (good thing, because I'd be disappointed in it if I was teaching for the time off) when I decided to become a teacher. I also do not need a "pat on the back" from anyone on here for what I do. I do, however, deserve the right to correct misrepresentations about what my job entails. That's the thing about teaching. So many people have opinions on what the job is like. I believe that is for two reasons. 1) Everyone went to school, so you feel as though you know what the job of teacher is. 2) In many areas, your largest employer is a school system. I couldn't begin to know what the job is like for a plumber, as I am not one. I could guess, but I'd probably be off. Likewise for a newspaper reporter. Or a CPA. Or a million other jobs, even though I might have seen those jobs in action. I feel like I partly know the job of a nurse, because my stepmom is one and I know how much time she puts in and how draining it is on her. But I don't follow her around while she is at work, so I don't REALLY know. Agree 100%
June 2, 201115 yr I work on those days, too, most of the time, though usually not Saturdays...except for graduation this Saturday...and the Saturday of prom...and Saturday football games...and basketball games. :lol: As RTS alluded to, he can attest to my Sunday work ethic. He has tried to get me to put that work off on more than one occasion. He has also called me several times on Saturdays while I was attending a school function, so he knows the reality of my life as a teacher. It is a nice perk. And sometimes, I don't even do any work on them. Just asking as I don't know but those school function Proms, football games, ect. don't teacher make a few extra bucks for doing them?
June 3, 201115 yr Just asking as I don't know but those school function Proms, football games, ect. don't teacher make a few extra bucks for doing them? Coaches do, yes, though anyone that has done that job knows that you certainly don't do it for the money. At my school, there is a small stipend for senior sponsors (who are in charge of organizing and putting on the prom). Our teachers work the gates at basketball and football games and receive no money for doing so. Our teachers are also required to be at graduation.
June 3, 201115 yr Coaches do, yes, though anyone that has done that job knows that you certainly don't do it for the money. At my school, there is a small stipend for senior sponsors (who are in charge of organizing and putting on the prom). Our teachers work the gates at basketball and football games and receive no money for doing so. Our teachers are also required to be at graduation. Thank you for the information. I can understand the graduation being required and the more work than money received thing too but is working the gate required, if their is no money in it for the work.
June 3, 201115 yr I don't mind number comparisons, but could we at least compare teachers with groups that have a similar education requirement? I doubt that the average KY wage earner has or is working on a masters degree. I would be interested in comparing apples to apples as well.
June 3, 201115 yr Just asking as I don't know but those school function Proms, football games, ect. don't teacher make a few extra bucks for doing them? Not the teacher I live with.
June 3, 201115 yr Thank you for the information. I can understand the graduation being required and the more work than money received thing too but is working the gate required, if their is no money in it for the work. Yes, it is required. It falls in the "other duties as assigned" category.
June 3, 201115 yr I don't mind number comparisons, but could we at least compare teachers with groups that have a similar education requirement? I doubt that the average KY wage earner has or is working on a masters degree. That post was in response to a post by CatsCatsCats saying teachers were a low to average paying job. I misunderstand that he meant similar degreed positions. What jobs would you consider to be equal in education? I would be interested in comparing apples to apples as well. Then compare away.
June 3, 201115 yr :thumb: I work in public accounting so I know my hours are more skewed than most fields, but being a salaried employee of a public accounting firm sucks! And I'm okay with that, because it's the field I chose to be in. You don't get overtime, and as you said 40 hour work weeks are completely gone. I keep track of all my weekly timesheets in a spreadsheet and worked "simply 40 hours" a grand total of 4 times in the 2.5 years I've been a full time employee. All this while working towards my CPA license and being told by my employer that I was not allowed to go to grad school until after I got my license. Most salaried positions are not based on 40 hour work weeks that is why your salary is what it is. If it was based purely on a 40 hour work week I am certain it would be less than your current base. Note when I say you I am speaking in general.
June 3, 201115 yr How many posters on here are salary? If on salary, are you required to have a degree? How many are hourly? If hourly are you required to have a degree? Just looking for perspective.
June 3, 201115 yr How many posters on here are salary? If on salary, are you required to have a degree? How many are hourly? If hourly are you required to have a degree? Just looking for perspective. I am hourly and you do not have to have a degree in my particular department. I work in Insurance. A lot of people do have degrees though.
June 3, 201115 yr I am hourly and you do not have to have a degree in my particular department. I work in Insurance. A lot of people do have degrees though. I am hourly and I am not required to have a degree. My wife is hourly and is required to have degree.
June 3, 201115 yr That post was in response to a post by CatsCatsCats saying teachers were a low to average paying job. I misunderstand that he meant similar degreed positions. What jobs would you consider to be equal in education? Then compare away. Done. http://www.ehow.com/list_7351031_list-medical-career-earnings-kentucky.html Nurses in Kentucky - $56,450 to $68,245. Physician Assistants in Kentucky - median salary of $81,320. A bit more work than comparing teacher salaries to median household income, but much more illuminating.
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