I’m struggling to understand the animosity toward teachers driving this thread and most others on education. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a teacher on this site complain about their compensation or demand more of it, yet there are several posters here arguing that teachers are overly whiny and entitled dregs who should actually be compensated less. It should be a mystery to no one that some would then feel the need to defend their livelihood and profession.

 

Having read through this thread and found few answers, I ask again: what is driving this contempt toward teachers?

 

A very fair point.

 

Again, I have no animosity whatsoever toward teachers (1/2 of my household's income is teacher-driven). I hear the "we should be paid more" argument from teachers quite often in my life (though not from my wife), but I have to agree that I've not seen much (if any?) of that here on BGP.

I’m struggling to understand the animosity toward teachers driving this thread and most others on education. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a teacher on this site complain about their compensation or demand more of it, yet there are several posters here arguing that teachers are overly whiny and entitled dregs who should actually be compensated less. It should be a mystery to no one that some would then feel the need to defend their livelihood and profession.

 

Having read through this thread and found few answers, I ask again: what is driving this contempt toward teachers?

 

I haven't seen anyone here showing any animosity towards teachers. Some have said they refuse to feel sorry for them that they have to work a few extra days due to the fact that they have more "off days" than most other professions. I think that's a valid stance, and not one that is degrading or showing any form of contempt toward teachers.

I’m struggling to understand the animosity toward teachers driving this thread and most others on education. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a teacher on this site complain about their compensation or demand more of it, yet there are several posters here arguing that teachers are overly whiny and entitled dregs who should actually be compensated less. It should be a mystery to no one that some would then feel the need to defend their livelihood and profession.

 

Having read through this thread and found few answers, I ask again: what is driving this contempt toward teachers?

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I’m struggling to understand the animosity toward teachers driving this thread and most others on education. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a teacher on this site complain about their compensation or demand more of it, yet there are several posters here arguing that teachers are overly whiny and entitled dregs who should actually be compensated less. It should be a mystery to no one that some would then feel the need to defend their livelihood and profession.

 

Having read through this thread and found few answers, I ask again: what is driving this contempt toward teachers?

 

 

I wish I knew. I would be real curious how the demographics shake out on this. I suspect (but don't know) that many begrudge the benefits and the chance to retire at a relatively young age. I never got upset or envious of others on that score - more power to them.

 

My dad was a teacher for several years before getting his Master's on the GI bill and becoming a guidance counselor; and my wife has been a teacher for many years. I've seen first hand how much work they do/did; and I've also heard the anti-teacher/education rhetoric for many a year. My dad retired at 52; my wife will probably retire at 60. I retired at 53 from the local Community Mental Health Center. Not a state employee but paid into KERS for 28+ years.

 

If I had a dollar every time I heard something along the lines of "teachers are overpaid and underworked", I could have beat my dad and retired at 51.

Republicans and Conservatives have to have a scapegoat for the country's problems , for them its teachers and unions especially teachers unions . They are blind to their own complicity .

 

What in God's name do Republicans and Conservatives have to do with anything? That's a huge stretch. I've not seen anyone in this thread show the least bit of animosity towards teachers or their profession.

I haven't seen anyone here showing any animosity towards teachers. Some have said they refuse to feel sorry for them that they have to work a few extra days due to the fact that they have more "off days" than most other professions. I think that's a valid stance, and not one that is degrading or showing any form of contempt toward teachers.

 

It is fair, but a casual post expressing frustration over a scheduling conflict has churned out a three page thread on the worth of the teaching profession. A few have been a little snide about it. And this isn't the first education thread we've had that's gone this direction.

What in God's name do Republicans and Conservatives have to do with anything? That's a huge stretch. I've not seen anyone in this thread show the least bit of animosity towards teachers or their profession.

Maybe not here but just look at Ohio and Wisconsin et-al ,whereas it is really the accountants that are the true culprits not teachers:D

I’m struggling to understand the animosity toward teachers driving this thread and most others on education. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a teacher on this site complain about their compensation or demand more of it, yet there are several posters here arguing that teachers are overly whiny and entitled dregs who should actually be compensated less. It should be a mystery to no one that some would then feel the need to defend their livelihood and profession.

 

Having read through this thread and found few answers, I ask again: what is driving this contempt toward teachers?

 

Who is saying they should be compensated less?

I haven't seen anyone here showing any animosity towards teachers. Some have said they refuse to feel sorry for them that they have to work a few extra days due to the fact that they have more "off days" than most other professions. I think that's a valid stance, and not one that is degrading or showing any form of contempt toward teachers.

 

:thumb: For some reason if anyone here disagrees with a teacher on anything they are showing animosity, envy, and are degrading teachers and their profession. :lol:

It is fair, but a casual post expressing frustration over a scheduling conflict has churned out a three page thread on the worth of the teaching profession. A few have been a little snide about it. And this isn't the first education thread we've had that's gone this direction.

 

You are right, and the reason they always go in this direction is we will never go three of four posts in before a teacher has to weigh and tell us all about the "extra" hours they put in. Some exagerated, some not. My wife was in the teaching profession and I have a couple of friends that still are. I know exactly what they put in and I know It's not close to what I put in. But I realy don't care about that. All jobs have their positives and negatives. We get it

:thumb: For some reason if anyone here disagrees with a teacher on anything they are showing animosity, envy, and are degrading teachers and their profession. :lol:

 

No animosity or feeling degraded here. I did reply to your first post, telling you how mis-informed your statement was.

No animosity or feeling degraded here. I did reply to your first post, telling you how mis-informed your statement was.

 

While I might agree that teachers don't have the summer completely off, I'm still a firm believer that all teachers do not put in 8 hour days/40 hour weeks the entire summer either. I know many very good teachers who don't.

While I might agree that teachers don't have the summer completely off, I'm still a firm believer that all teachers do not put in 8 hour days/40 hour weeks the entire summer either. I know many very good teachers who don't.

 

Thank you. Who said that teachers put in 8 hour/40 hours a week during the summer?????? I didn't see that posted.

Thank you. Who said that teachers put in 8 hour/40 hours a week during the summer?????? I didn't see that posted.

 

So the whole disagreement was simply because I said teachers are off the entire summer?

 

I didn't mean that literally. However there's no arguing teachers get a significant amount of time off, therefore a few extra days at work shouldn't be a big deal.

So the whole disagreement was simply because I said teachers are off the entire summer?

 

I didn't mean that literally. However there's no arguing teachers get a significant amount of time off, therefore a few extra days at work shouldn't be a big deal.

 

That is what you posted. How else were we to take it????? I wanted to clear up this misconception. In my 27 years of teaching I never complained about all the extra hours I put in, money I spent out of my own pocket, ballgames and extra activities I had to work, without extra pay, and home visits. $$$$$ spent for more education. I became a teacher because I loved kids and wanted to make a difference in their lives. I believe I did. I have been retired 5 years now...but sub over 100 day each year.....really miss the kids.