Agreed. What's the Islamic equivalent?

 

Wouldn't have a clue

Wouldn't have a clue

 

Let's assume there is one. How does a public school justify being closed for one but not the other?

Let's assume there is one. How does a public school justify being closed for one but not the other?

 

Because its not a Christmas break. It's a Winter Break...and sorry Muslims, your holiday just doesn't fall during the times that we have tradition had a "winter break" from classes.

Let's assume there is one. How does a public school justify being closed for one but not the other?

Maybe its in the summer and this is moot point.

Because its not a Christmas break. It's a Winter Break...

 

Keep telling yourself that.

Because its not a Christmas break. It's a Winter Break...and sorry Muslims, your holiday just doesn't fall during the times that we have tradition had a "winter break" from classes.

 

A talking point I just don't agree with.

Agreed. What's the Islamic equivalent?

Looks like Eid al-Adha ("the Feast of Sacrifice") and Eid al-Fitr (" the Festival of Breaking the Fast") are the two most important Islamic holidays.

 

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/islamicholidays.html#axzz0x4aaMTaV

I don't care whether ya'll agree with it or not. On paper, it is a winter break, not Christmas break. If I choose to celebrate a holiday during that break, I can. If a Muslin doesn't want to, don't...but their kids still get a few weeks off school.

I don't care whether ya'll agree with it or not. On paper, it is a winter break, not Christmas break.

 

So you think folks would be fine with going to school on 12.25 and starting "winter break" on 12.26?

So you think folks would be fine with going to school on 12.25 and starting "winter break" on 12.26?

 

No, and I wouldn't either because I'd rather give off earlier to have more time with my family. So I would like to be off as early as possible.

No, and I wouldn't either because I'd rather give off earlier to have more time with my family. So I would like to be off as early as possible.

 

So you'd be OK with going to school on 12.25 if the break started on 12.26 and went the exact same number of days as it does today?

If you took the school year, late Aug. to end of May. Evenly space breaks would come in Nov. (winter) and April (spring). To think "winter" break is not accommodating the Christmas holiday is naive.

Actually Congress was in session on Christmas day for nearly the first 100 years of this nation (12-25-1789 for instance). 1870 is when it became a national holiday under President Grant. In fact Christmas as we know it really didn't exist in the same fashion as it does in a religious sense today for anywhere near as long as most people like to think it did.

 

Christmas itself was an arbitrary choice by early Church leaders to co-opt the pagan celebrations of Saturnalia, Juvenalia and the birthday of Mithras (God of the Unconquerable sun). They decided if they were going to celebrate the birthday of any type of deity they might as well just make it Jesus' birthday and tell the newly converted Christians that this was the reason for the celebration. As it is I have heard a number of biblical scholars state that the actual birth of Christ would have been around March or so if you go by most of the scriptural details.

 

Shoot many Protestants outside of those from the Anglican tradition didn't celebrate Christmas because of its pagan roots until the mid to late 1800's. Oliver Cromwell even banned Christmas celebrations in England while he was in power because of its pagan roots.

 

The biggest problem that I have with this is the fact that we talk about taking the "Christ" out of Christmas when he was essentially an addition to it from the beginning. Besides considering only Catholics and Anglicans, by and large, were even celebrating Christmas for a long time I find all this outrage amusing. On top of all that, most of the traditional celebrations prior to the Victorian era were downright Bacchanalian in their form.

 

Thank you PepRock. :thumb:

 

Of course you will discover that historical discussion is quickly ignored or "trumped" by "well, I don't care, it's about my life, my time, or what I think." :lol:

So you'd be OK with going to school on 12.25 if the break started on 12.26 and went the exact same number of days as it does today?

 

I'm not really a fan of Christmas for personal reasons, so I could really care less. If you don't believe in Christmas, enjoy your couple of days off.

 

According to PepRock, and what I've always been taught by biblical historians, we shouldn't be celebrating Christmas in December anyways.

I'm not really a fan of Christmas for personal reasons, so I could really care less. If you don't believe in Christmas, enjoy your couple of days off.

 

The allow me to re-phrase.

 

Do you think most Christians would be OK with it?