August 18, 201016 yr http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0731/christians-muslims-condemn-churchs-burn-koran-day/ So, what does this so called "church" think they will accomplish by burning the Koran in a few weeks, on the 9th anniversary of 9/11? All it will do is fuel the fire. What if a non-Christian church decided to have a "Burn a Bible Day" event? I am sure it will lead to outrage, backlash, revenge, whatever you want to call it. It leads people to think that the religious freedoms or okay in America but "Only if the religion you practice is the same as mine". Then you add protests in Kentucky, Tennessee and other states on the building of mosque. We are headed down a slippery slope. It's as if some are inviting a religious war.
August 18, 201016 yr I like that the National Association of Evangelicals is speaking out against it. This sounds like a real bozo organization (can't call it a church).
August 18, 201016 yr Author It's pretty tough to tell who the innocents are over there. I think we can agree to that. That's just it...where is "over there"? Afghan villages? Iraqi villages? What about downtown St. Petersburg? Or maybe London? Terrorists exist everywhere. Where do you decide to start killing without regard to whose lives are lost? And no, I don't think it's "pretty tough to tell who the innocents are over there" any more than I think it's tough to tell who the innocents are over here.
August 18, 201016 yr We are headed down a slippery slope. It's as if some are inviting a religious war. I hate to say it, but that comment could apply to either side of the discussion IMO.
August 18, 201016 yr That's just it...where is "over there"? Afghan villages? Iraqi villages? What about downtown St. Petersburg? Or maybe London? Terrorists exist everywhere. Where do you decide to start killing without regard to whose lives are lost? And no, I don't think it's "pretty tough to tell who the innocents are over there" any more than I think it's tough to tell who the innocents are over here. Over there refers to wherever our troops are. They struggling identifying the enemy, just like they did in Vietnam. Little kids are talking to you and then next minute a 14 year old has a gun. That's why I say its tough to tell who the innocents are.
August 18, 201016 yr I really think the biggest thing to keep in mind regarding these Mosque discussions is just because people/groups have the right to do something under the constitution and our laws does not necessarily make it the right thing to do imo. The proposed Mosque at the site of GZ is just in bad taste and it's totally disrespectful to the people who lost their lives there. I can think of two hypothetical situations where people may have the "right" to build something, but it would be in extremely bad taste and disrespectful, but does anyone really care about respect anymore?? Sure seems to me that their "rights" are trumping the respect of people that lost their lives. 1. How about building a monument or "cultural center" paying tribute to Japanese pilots, and putting it next door to Pearl Harbor. 2. How about allowing the NRA to build their new headquarters next to Columbine HS. They may have the right to build these places, but would it be the right thing to do? This country has lost all common sense and Americans are being force fed political correctness. Sickening.
August 18, 201016 yr If they legitimately own the property, there are no zoning issues, then they should be able to build. However, the mosque in NYC is a different tale. I think that it conjures up too many painful memories of 9/11. If they want to endear themselves to Americans they should build elsewhere in the city. Notice I said build elsewhere---- not ever build. If we deny them freedom of religion it won't be long before the next Baptist, or whatever denomination's house of worship is denied their freedoms. I absolutely abhor the teachings of Islam and they hate Americans and think we are Satan but according to the Constitution they have a right to build. Choosing to build a mosque so near the twin towers in NYC however, is ill advised and in poor taste. JMHO
August 18, 201016 yr Author Over there refers to wherever our troops are. They struggling identifying the enemy, just like they did in Vietnam. Little kids are talking to you and then next minute a 14 year old has a gun. That's why I say its tough to tell who the innocents are. What about over here in the inner cities where 14 year olds have guns?
August 18, 201016 yr I really think the biggest thing to keep in mind regarding these Mosque discussions is just because people/groups have the right to do something under the constitution and our laws does not necessarily make it the right thing to do imo. The proposed Mosque at the site of GZ is just in bad taste and it's totally disrespectful to the people who lost their lives there. I can think of two hypothetical situations where people may have the "right" to build something, but it would be in extremely bad taste and disrespectful, but does anyone really care about respect anymore?? Sure seems to me that their "rights" are trumping the respect of people that lost their lives. 1. How about building a monument or "cultural center" paying tribute to Japanese pilots, and putting it next door to Pearl Harbor. 2. How about allowing the NRA to build their new headquarters next to Columbine HS. They may have the right to build these places, but would it be the right thing to do? This country has lost all common sense and Americans are being force fed political correctness. Sickening. Your argument applies to the Mosque being built next to GZ. It does not apply to the one in NKY.
August 18, 201016 yr The proposed Mosque at the site of GZ is just in bad taste and it's totally disrespectful to the people who lost their lives there.You are entitled to your opinion, yet there is no legal reason to prevent it from going up. That is the meaning of freedom of religion. How about building a monument or "cultural center" paying tribute to Japanese pilots, and putting it next door to Pearl Harbor.I don't think what is going up in New York is anything meant as a tribute to the 9/11 terrorists. How about allowing the NRA to build their new headquarters next to Columbine HS.Some people may find it distasteful, but as long as there is no zoning questions, I don't know if there would be a legal recourse. Of course, the NRA isn't a constitutionally-protected religion, either, no matter how passionate its membership may be.
August 18, 201016 yr What about over here in the inner cities where 14 year olds have guns? As my mother would say...we aren't talking about them right now. So, let's not change the topic of discussion.
August 18, 201016 yr Author As my mother would say...we aren't talking about them right now. So, let's not change the topic of discussion. What's different? I don't see anything different? You can't characterize a whole nation of people as potentiallay expendable because of some of it's citizens. I also think that the twist you're introducing is further off topic than my response to you. What does the 14 year old with a gun in Afghanistan have to do with a group of Muslim American Citizens legally building a mosque in Northern Kentucky?
August 18, 201016 yr What's different? I don't see anything different? The difference is "over there", the 14 year olds are killing because they are taught they are should through their religion (granted, maybe taught by extremists". And you know I was talking about the targeting of American soldiers. The 14 year olds over here are being taught to do so for a variety of reasons, and aren't targeting a specific group of people, besides each other maybe.
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