So are we not giving the Celtics credit? They have a plan for scorers especially if it's just one scorer. Rondo was leaps and bounds better than he was two years ago. Kobe didn't have a great series against Boston either. Boston is really good defensively. Wade had one good game. No wing from Orlando had any good games.

 

Yes. I gave them credit. They beat the best team from the regular season which was also the team with the league MVP on it. All I said was that they were better in 2008(which they were) and that the Cavs were better this year than they were in 2008(which they were) yet the 2008 Cavs put up a better fight against the Celtics past and present.

 

Kobe had a great series, he had a bad game 7. He got Finals MVP remember? They also said he likely would have gotten it had the Lakers lost. That means he played better than anyone from both teams for the series.

 

I thought you said you liked Kobe.....

A TV reporter in Cleveland says that the address for James' LLC was changed to a Chicago address today.

 

This is great. You can't make this stuff up. Has anyone been tracking flights?

If I was still working at the Bank I could verify this for us but I am not anymore. I wouldn't tell you guys anyway though.

Yes. I gave them credit. They beat the best team from the regular season which was also the team with the league MVP on it. All I said was that they were better in 2008(which they were) and that the Cavs were better this year than they were in 2008(which they were) yet the 2008 Cavs put up a better fight against the Celtics past and present.

 

Kobe had a great series, he had a bad game 7. He got Finals MVP remember? They also said he likely would have gotten it had the Lakers lost. That means he played better than anyone from both teams for the series.

 

I thought you said you liked Kobe.....

 

 

Can you relax? Kobe didn't have a great seires. He was dominant the two series before the Finals. Kobe played pretty well, but not GREAT. I wsa complimenting the Celtics not putting Kobe down. I also didn't directly refer to you in my post. I asked if we were shortchanging the Celtics. I mentioned other really good or greaat players that they also shut down.

Can you relax? Kobe didn't have a great seires. He was dominant the two series before the Finals. Kobe played pretty well, but not GREAT. I wsa complimenting the Celtics not putting Kobe down. I also didn't directly refer to you in my post. I asked if we were shortchanging the Celtics. I mentioned other really good or greaat players that they also shut down.

 

I am relaxed. I should have put some smilies up to show you my level of relaxation. I go hard for my dawgs(Kobe, Randy Moss, Duke, Tampa Bay, Florida State, Boyle County) 24/7.

 

Fine, he played pretty well. M-V-P of the Finals is all that matters to me. That means he played pretty well more than anyone else from either team and his team emerged victorious because of it. What more can a Kobe fan ask of him?

 

Scratch that last question....if he shoots just 40% in game 7 and makes his free throws in game 7 he gets 35 points easy and the Lakers win by 10+ points but they got the trophy....that's all that matters. Let it go, Jason. Let it go.......

So are we not giving the Celtics credit? They have a plan for scorers especially if it's just one scorer. Rondo was leaps and bounds better than he was two years ago. Kobe didn't have a great series against Boston either. Boston is really good defensively. Wade had one good game. No wing from Orlando had any good games.

 

Who didn't give them credit?

 

This is great. You can't make this stuff up. Has anyone been tracking flights?

 

ESPN bottom line just said he flew to Miami tonight. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH NNNNNNNNNOOOOO!!!!!

ESPN bottom line just said he flew to Miami tonight. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH NNNNNNNNNOOOOO!!!!!

 

You picked the wrong time to be a Cavs fan CCC.

I swear I would watch a farting contest between Larry King and Abe Vigoda before I would waste an hour watching James' one-hour extravaganza.

To each his own. I woke up eagerly awaiting 9pm tonight to see what "The Decision" will be.

 

Now that sources are saying it will be Miami what will people's view of Bron Bron be? Him going to Miami would be the most selfless thing he could do. Leaving money on the table. He'd be selling himself short. He'd have a Scottie Pippen-esque/James Worthy-esque role. His brand would take a hit and globally he'd never surpass Kobe. He would sacrifice all opportunity to go down as the best to ever play. All things that to me say maybe his ego isn't as big as I thought. I am intrigued by the Superfriends playing together and while I wouldn't hand them the trophy Thursday night at 9:12, they'd definitely be the favorite. As long as it isn't Chicago I'm not mad.

 

Come on 9pm. The day of speculation is going to be the worst today.

This thread rules...

To each his own. I woke up eagerly awaiting 9pm tonight to see what "The Decision" will be.

 

Now that sources are saying it will be Miami what will people's view of Bron Bron be? Him going to Miami would be the most selfless thing he could do. Leaving money on the table. He'd be selling himself short. He'd have a Scottie Pippen-esque/James Worthy-esque role. His brand would take a hit and globally he'd never surpass Kobe. He would sacrifice all opportunity to go down as the best to ever play. All things that to me say maybe his ego isn't as big as I thought. I am intrigued by the Superfriends playing together and while I wouldn't hand them the trophy Thursday night at 9:12, they'd definitely be the favorite. As long as it isn't Chicago I'm not mad.

 

Come on 9pm. The day of speculation is going to be the worst today.

 

I agree w/ most of your thoughts. If he takes less and has great support can he be called selfish?

 

Did anyone catch this yahoo piece that said even he might not know what he's doing yet and that Maverick Carter promoting himself is the only person LBJ really listens too?

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AieeDJ0Sat9q2w7jb3_g3P28vLYF?slug=mc-lebronbackground070710

 

Or this Yahoo piece saying the teams thought LBJ's guys didn't know what they are doing and this was all for show for Maverick Carter?

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710

To each his own. I woke up eagerly awaiting 9pm tonight to see what "The Decision" will be.

 

Now that sources are saying it will be Miami what will people's view of Bron Bron be? Him going to Miami would be the most selfless thing he could do. Leaving money on the table. He'd be selling himself short. He'd have a Scottie Pippen-esque/James Worthy-esque role. His brand would take a hit and globally he'd never surpass Kobe. He would sacrifice all opportunity to go down as the best to ever play. All things that to me say maybe his ego isn't as big as I thought. I am intrigued by the Superfriends playing together and while I wouldn't hand them the trophy Thursday night at 9:12, they'd definitely be the favorite. As long as it isn't Chicago I'm not mad.

 

Come on 9pm. The day of speculation is going to be the worst today.

It will be extremely selfless... a very intriguing scenario.

 

On the other hand, I still contend it will be about the biggest slap in the face I can think of to the city of Cleveland and the Cavs in announcing his intentions in this fashion. Many will want to know why he can't be as selfless in Cleveland? Though some do not believe me, I really like LeBron and I think he is a good guy. I can't imagine a self proclaimed Cleveland fan that understands what this city has gone through on the sports scene through the years to leave in such a fashion.

It will be extremely selfless... a very intriguing scenario.

 

On the other hand, I still contend it will be about the biggest slap in the face I can think of to the city of Cleveland and the Cavs in announcing his intentions in this fashion. Many will want to know why he can't be as selfless in Cleveland? Though some do not believe me, I really like LeBron and I think he is a good guy. I can't imagine a self proclaimed Cleveland fan that understands what this city has gone through on the sports scene through the years to leave in such a fashion.

 

He's not a Browns fan or Indians fans, so does he really understand the sports fans in Cleveland? He also grew up poor, does he undertand most businessman in Cleveland?

I don't see it as selfless. It's a cop-out and it's weak IMO. He has to win a championship so he joins the best teammates he can find? That's not how anyone else did it. This is more like Malone and Payton joining the Lakers, than Kobe getting Gasol or Jordan lucking into Pippen. Let me run to play with 2 of the best players in the league.

 

Let's face it going to Miami is the most sell-out thing he could do. Anywhere else he could go wouldn't be nearly as bad. Atleast the Bulls, Nets and Knicks would require some work from him to get a title. So run to Miami LeBron, you might wins some championships but your legacy and brand will take a huge hit, you'll lose money in the process and the haters will just get louder. Nothing good can come out of going to the Heat besides winning, but that brand of winning will be hollow when you look at the work everyone in the past has put in to get to the top.

 

Yeah the Cavs are not a great team, but neither were the Bulls before Jordan, nor the Lakers really before Shaq & Kobe. The Celtics were garbage before Russell, Bird and Magic took the Celtics and Lakers to the next level. MJ would not have left for the Heat, how about having a little bit of competitiveness in you? So go to Miami and prove your detractors right and show the world you're no where near the caliber of athlete, basketball player and competitor that many have thought you were.

He's not a Browns fan or Indians fans, so does he really understand the sports fans in Cleveland? He also grew up poor, does he undertand most businessman in Cleveland?

Whether he personally is a fan of the sports' teams or not, you would think being from the area and many have stated his love for where he is, he would have a pretty good clue. Either that, or he really does not give a flip about Cleveland. He has let it be known that Akron is his hometown and not Cleveland.