Yes I would be just as upset if it wasn't an athlete. If someone who doesn't put any hard work into something and then comes out doing better than someone that did put the time and work into it, that angers me greatly. I don't know how it wouldn't make someone mad. I agree with what you said about the girl, and this was the only way she could get any attention from them, that is for sure.

 

I agree.

Those are pretty strong accusations. I'd make sure I was 100% sure before I said anything.

 

Also, while cheating is bad, what kind of professor gives you all the questions before the final? That's the hookup!

Lets not just bash UK on this, it happens everywhere in some manner. I wasnt there so I dont know if she was "giving them the answers" or not, but I do know that it most athletes can get "Extra Help" if it is need. I know when I went to an ACC school, there were several athletes that had "Helpers" with exams and stuff.

 

If she was flat given them the answers that is wrong, and shows her bad character, and the schools if they knowingly know it is going on.

My sister had several classes with basketball players. She was in many with Jules Camara because they were in the same degree program. She always said he tried hard and came to class. She even did a group project with him, but he normally traveled around with a tutor.

 

Funny story if any of you remember when he hurt his foot in 2002 and he was trying to get back on the court and my sister accidentally stepped on it in class one day :lol:! The class was irate at her! He gave her a hard time after that saying she set his rehab back several days. My Dad was ready to take her car away if she injured anymore basketball players. :sssh: I think Old Rambler demanded she be transferred to Louisville so she could injure their players. :thumb:

My sister had several classes with basketball players. She was in many with Jules Camara because they were in the same degree program. She always said he tried hard and came to class. She even did a group project with him, but he normally traveled around with a tutor.

 

Funny story if any of you remember when he hurt his foot in 2002 and he was trying to get back on the court and my sister accidentally stepped on it in class one day :lol:! The class was irate at her! He gave her a hard time after that saying she set his rehab back several days. My Dad was ready to take her car away if she injured anymore basketball players. :sssh: I think Old Rambler demanded she be transferred to Louisville so she could injure their players. :thumb:

 

Thats funny. Personal tutors are required by the NCAA for each team I believe. (I know the 3 schools I went to they were required.)

On a serious note, were you close enough to see for sure that she was giving them the test answers and not something else? Could they have possibly been finished with the test, and she was just going over the answers so they could see how they did on the test? Where was the professor, or his/her assistant?

 

Yeah right LRCW!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Were you using one of these when you saw them?

 

In all seriousness, how do you know for sure that they were cheating? Like some one else said, those are some pretty big accusations, and I'd be 100% sure that they were true before throwing them around.

Were you using one of these when you saw them?

 

In all seriousness, how do you know for sure that they were cheating? Like some one else said, those are some pretty big accusations, and I'd be 100% sure that they were true before throwing them around.

 

I know what I saw.

I know what I saw.

 

You might think you know, but how can you know for sure unless you were over there hearing everything that was said?

 

I'm not being naive here, and I don't know the entire circumstances of the situation, I just feel like you should be 100% sure before making that kind of accusation.

Lets not just bash UK on this, it happens everywhere in some manner. I wasnt there so I dont know if she was "giving them the answers" or not, but I do know that it most athletes can get "Extra Help" if it is need. I know when I went to an ACC school, there were several athletes that had "Helpers" with exams and stuff.

 

If she was flat given them the answers that is wrong, and shows her bad character, and the schools if they knowingly know it is going on.

 

Lamest cop-out ever. Just because "it happens everywhere" doesn't make it OK.

You might think you know, but how can you know for sure unless you were over there hearing everything that was said?

 

I'm not being naive here, and I don't know the entire circumstances of the situation, I just feel like you should be 100% sure before making that kind of accusation.

 

According to the poster, he witnessed it first hand. If this is true, it is shameful.

It is laughable that people are questioning whether or not it was cheating.

 

Any conversations during an exam are considered cheating.

 

This problem is not exclusive to Kentucky, but it does not make the problem any less offensive.

 

Also, I don't think this is one of the perks to being an athlete. There is plenty of cheating that occurs on the majority of college campuses, particularly when large classes are involved.

Not saying it happened, but....

 

dont you think that would be a little to obvious to cheat. I mean, in the same room as the professor and assistant, in front of other students and make no attempt to hide it. I would think that if the professor had knowledge that this would take place, he would make sure it was more discreet. I would not want a class full of students to swarm upon my office with a "its not fair" tirade.

 

I dont seeing it happening like that.

Not saying it happened, but....

 

dont you think that would be a little to obvious to cheat. I mean, in the same room as the professor and assistant, in front of other students and make no attempt to hide it. I would think that if the professor had knowledge that this would take place, he would make sure it was more discreet. I would not want a class full of students to swarm upon my office with a "its not fair" tirade.

 

I dont seeing it happening like that.

 

Unfortunately, some of the classes are way too big to be able to moderate all of the students, particularly when 1.) students want to cheat and 2.) students are turning their papers in.

So what your saying is we wont be seeing any UK's finest athletes on the History Channel in the future digging up rocks? LOL